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Confuzzled by GIBBINS
« on: Tuesday 24 February 15 11:29 GMT (UK) »
The GLS parish registers now available through ancestry are proving very useful (when I can read them!). But I have a question for you folks.

The Miserden records include two entries on the same page for Elizabeth GIBBINS. They show her as bap 06 February 1709 and bur 07 August 1709. So what's the problem, I hear you cry.

As someone has kindly just explained to me in the Common Room, this was during the Julian calendar, so these Miserden baptisms are listed from 04 April>30 November then 20 January>08 March. Therefore the sequence of entries indicates her as bap in what we would now call 1710.

Her August 1709 bur is listed in the next column (there doesn't seem to be any other candidate).

How could this be?
   
ABEL(L), 18c, Winstone GLS and around
ASHCROFT, mainly 19c, Aughton, LAN
GIBBINS, all, Miserden GLS and around
HAGUE, mainly Malton, YRK but they got around
HAVILAND etc, 17-19c, Winstone GLS and around
HAVILAND etc, 16c, Poole DOR
HAVILAND etc, 15-16c, Guernsey CI
HERBERT, 18-19c, various GLS
OCCOULD etc, 17c, wherever in GLS
TURK(E), 18c, various GLS
VANDERPANT/VAN DER PANT, all !

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Re: Confuzzled by GIBBINS
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 February 15 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen the actual parish registers?
Or are you relying on Ancestry's interpretation of the data?! ::)
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Re: Confuzzled by GIBBINS
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 February 15 13:19 GMT (UK) »
I take your point, but no not transcriptions. Ancestry is now making available scans of the actual registers in the original handwriting (which of course introduces its own difficulties).
ABEL(L), 18c, Winstone GLS and around
ASHCROFT, mainly 19c, Aughton, LAN
GIBBINS, all, Miserden GLS and around
HAGUE, mainly Malton, YRK but they got around
HAVILAND etc, 17-19c, Winstone GLS and around
HAVILAND etc, 16c, Poole DOR
HAVILAND etc, 15-16c, Guernsey CI
HERBERT, 18-19c, various GLS
OCCOULD etc, 17c, wherever in GLS
TURK(E), 18c, various GLS
VANDERPANT/VAN DER PANT, all !

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Re: Confuzzled by GIBBINS
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I'll be better next time

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I think you have to take them as 1709 because I cant see any other valid solution
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Maternal: Munn, Simpson , Brighton, Clayfield, Westmacott, Corbell, Hatherell, Blacksell/Blackstone, Boothey , Muirhead

Son: Bull, Kneebone, Lehmann, Cronin, Fowler, Yates, Biglands, Rix, Carpenter, Pethick, Carrick, Male, London, Jacka, Tilbrook, Scott, Hampshire, Buckley

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Re: Confuzzled by GIBBINS
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Might just have cracked it!

The Miserden records from 1574 to 1901 available from ancestry were scanned from four separate registers. Whilst most of them are a bit of a mishmash and not at all easy to read, they are at least copies of the real originals. Fascinating stuff! The entries lifted for the period surrounding 1709, however,  although early were clearly handwritten in blocks, so can't be the  primary records. But they must have been very early transcriptions, though, because there’s a page showing the imprimatur of John DURSTON - who was Rector between 1681 and 1728  approx. I tend to think, therefore, this is a very early baptism transcription screw-up, perhaps s/b 1708/9 (as our GIBBINS rootschatter in the Antipodes has posted) instead of  1709/10(?), rather than there being two Elizabeths. But I guess I’ll never know for sure.

Anyroadup thanks for your thoughts.
ABEL(L), 18c, Winstone GLS and around
ASHCROFT, mainly 19c, Aughton, LAN
GIBBINS, all, Miserden GLS and around
HAGUE, mainly Malton, YRK but they got around
HAVILAND etc, 17-19c, Winstone GLS and around
HAVILAND etc, 16c, Poole DOR
HAVILAND etc, 15-16c, Guernsey CI
HERBERT, 18-19c, various GLS
OCCOULD etc, 17c, wherever in GLS
TURK(E), 18c, various GLS
VANDERPANT/VAN DER PANT, all !