Underwood/simmons/hesketh Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk

[Scottleneveu]

I'm looking for any info on my great grandmother Nellie Underwood. I think she was born in Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk around 1910. She married my great grandfather James Hesketh who I believe was from the Liverpool area? I think that Nellies father was called George Charles Underwood abt 1888 and her mother was Louisa Simmons abt 1890, both possibly born in Gt Yarmouth? I would love to hear more about all these people if it's possible, I have a little more information, but not really a lot.
I hope to hear from you.
Scott.

[The Yokel]

Hello Scott
Welcome to RootsChat

FreeBMD has this marriage for the Great Yarmouth district

December Quarter 1909
Charles George Underwood and Louisa Gertrude Simmons Ref:- Yarmouth 4b 29

yokel

[The Yokel]

This looks like George in 1891 From FreeCEN http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Piece: RG12/1501 Folio: 121 Page: 8 Schedule: 53
Address: 1 Foundry Walk. Gt Yarmouth

           
 UNDERWOOD    William   Head    M 41 Bricklayer(Em'ee)      Ormesby           
 UNDERWOOD    Jane       Wife   M 40                             Martham           
 UNDERWOOD   William   Son    S 9       Bricklayer Labourer(Em'ee)     Ormesby           
 UNDERWOOD   Harry       Son    16       Bricklayer Labourer(Em'ee)      Ormesby           
 UNDERWOOD   Fred       Son    14                                Ormesby           
 UNDERWOOD   Benjamin   Son    10       Scholar                  Ormesby           
 UNDERWOOD   Lilly       Dau-    8       Scholar                  Ormesby           
 UNDERWOOD   Kate       Dau    6       Scholar                  Ormesby           
 UNDERWOOD   George   Son    2                                Yarmouth       

[Scottleneveu]

Thank you so much, this is very helpful!
Is there any way I could find out anymore about Louisa? I have no idea who her parents where, although I think that possibly one of the could of bee from Ireland, although I'm not 100% on this.

[..claire..]

Hi

and welcome to RootsChat 

Think this is possibly Louisa in 1891 with her family, name transcribed SIMMONDS

Great Yarmouth: Row 48

Thomas Simmonds hd mar 51  labourer   bn Gt Yarmouth Norfolk
Ellen                       wf         42                    "   Inniskillen Ireland
William                  son        20 fisher  ?man  born Chatham Kent
John                       "           14 scholar            "    Warley Essex
Alfred                     "           10      "                 "    Gt Yarmouth
Edward                  "             7                                "        "
George                  "             6                                "        "
Harry                                   5                                "         "
Louisa                 dau           1                                "        "

  Class: RG12, Piece: 1502, Folio: 52,  Page: 25.

claire

[..claire..]

Hi

This is possibly the family in 1881 in Essex

South Weald: Warley Road, Hammonds Lane

Thomas Simmons hd mar 40 army pensioner bn Gt Yarmouth Norfolk
Ellen                     wf     "   28                            "   Ireland
William                son          9                            " Chatham Kent
Ellen                    dau         7                             " Essex Warley
James                son          3                                    "         "
Elizabeth           dau           1                                    "         "

plus two lodgers Robt. and Maria Everard, the man being in the Army.

Class: RG11,  Piece: 1756,  Folio: 126,  Page: 52.

claire

[Scottleneveu]

This is amazing, thank you so much! is there any way if knowing if this louisa simmons is the one who married George Charles Underwood? The name Gertrude appears as a middle name for Louisa on some records, but not all of them. Am I safe to believe that she didn't use it all of the time and it's the same person? Or am I looking at two different people? I hope this makes sense!
Scott.

[..claire..]

Hi

Its hard to say that it's the same person but from some of the info given I would say it's her. We are not allowed to do look ups but from the 1911 census when she is marries she gives her place of birth as Great Yarmouth.

In the 1901 census she is staying with her sister Nellie ( Ellen) in Great Yarmouth, all birthdates and places of birth fit, but has a middle initial of H

1901 census : Great Yarmouth : 133b Black ? ? Pl.

Frederick Haggate  hd mar 25 milkman   bn Plumstead
Nellie                      wf     "   28                   " Chatham Kent
LOUISA H SIMMONS sister 12                   " Norfolk Yarmouth

Class: RG13, Piece: 1809,  Folio: 182,  Page: 15.

claire

[Scottleneveu]

Thank you for you reply. Yes it's difficult to say, I have never seen the middle initial of 'H' before, all the records I've found say born about 1887 or about 1890. The one for 1887 says Getrude as a middle name but the one for 1890 doesn't say anything as a middle name, yet it has my great grandmother and both my gg grandparents on it so I'm pretty sure that's the right record. The one for about 1887 is for Louisa Gertrude Underwood and it's a death record for 1974 in Gt Yarmouth. I just don't know if it's the same person or not. It's so difficult.
Scott