Old Uncle Tom Cobley and all :)

[Annie65115]

Gah!   

[Finley 1]

Xin, I have a distant Buzzard in my tree too -- one day we will find the link between our families!

Yep Annie - we will - but I hope that (for your sake ) its none of this crazy lot.

I cannot believe the results of todays search

Everyone 'a gem' lots of lovely transcribing for me to fill in - brilliant.

thank you all ... 

[Finley 1]

I gave been going crazy attempting to sort Samuel snr and his wife Catherines deaths...
now I think I MAY have found Samuels death.....
1838 Leicester... But then there is Susannah born 1841 -- so I imagine it is almost possible for her to have been concieved before his death --- but that would still be OUT...
so wondering what is going on... there...

Then could not find a death for a Catherine Patrick of the correct age... as cannot find her on the 1851 as Catherine Patrick..

I had her birth between 1797 and 1806.. it varies...

SO

I thought maybe she married again !!!!

and found a possible marriage of a Catherine Patrick Dec 1848... but with lots of possible partners names.

So suddenly wondered if that 1851 with Susannah next door to Harriet would show anything.

And saw that living with Susannah is a Catherine Moore !?!?!? age 45...with a young son James. 
So checked the poss partners names for the 1848 marriage and there is a John Moore.

Could this be Catherine marrying again after Samuel died.....
and living with the Parkers in 1851..

Now to see what the 1861 shows for a Catherine Moore.

Is it possible to see if there is a marriage for a Catherine Patrick to a John Moore on the St Margarets disc.

what a game this is... cos now I am wondering about the relationship with the Parkers... it never ends.

xin

[willsy]

Sure I've seen Catherine Moore pop up somewhere...must be the other thread, remember the witnesses

St Margaret

Entry No.249,  OCT 23, 1848, after Banns
JOHN MOORE, full age, bach. FWK, of SOUTHAMPTON St, s. of THOMAS MOORE, FWK
CATHARINE PATRICK, full age, wid. of SOUTHAMPTON St, d. of JOHN RAVEN, FWK
Wits: JOHN ROLLESTON, HARRIET ROLLESTON

[willsy]

...and for my next trick

Leicester, St. Margaret   09-Sep   1829   Banns
John   Rolleson   OTP      Bach      
Harriet   Raven   OTP      Spin

[Annie65115]

Don't spend too long on the 1861 census, Xin, Catherine had moved to better places by then.

Welford Rd plot cI 741

PATRICK   SARAH   1852   DEC   27   age 19   2 SAINT JAMES STREET   SAINT MARGARET   
BECKWITH   ---                   1852   DEC   27   INF   EAST CONDUIT STREET   SAINT GEORGE   
MOORE   CATHERINE   1853   FEB   6   age 47   WHARF STREET   SAINT MARGARET   
HILL   ---                           1853   MAR   15   STBN      16 BURLEYS LANE   SAINT MARGARET   
PATRICK   SARAH   1853   MAR   15   age12WKS      39 WHARF STREET   SAINT MARGARET   
PIPES   JAMES           1854   SEP   23   age 33   LEICESTER INFIRMARY   SAINT MARY   
LENTON   FLORENCE           1877   DEC   24   age 1MTH   WILLOW STREET   SAINT MARGARET   
LENTON   FLORENCE GERTRUDE     1883   MAR   31   age 1      WILLOW STREET   SAINT MARGARET   
LENTON   VALENTINE ARTHUR           1883   DEC   8   age 9MTHS      WILLOW STREET   SAINT MARGARET   

[Annie65115]

I wonder if 12 week old Sarah was the offspring of 19 yr old Sarah, mum dying in/after childbirth? (looking at the dates)

[Finley 1]

So my deductions were correct.. wow  -- again wonderful info from you all .. just off to digest it
thank you

xin xx

[Annie65115]

I wonder if these are Harriet's and John's graves -- do the ages look likely? Harriet seems to be in a communal grave with no other family members.


Welford Rd, Plot  cN 2489
ROLLESTONE   HARRIET   1888   JUL   24   77   LOWER WILLOW STREET   SAINT MARGARET


Do you have Holmes in your tree? Because if this is John, he seems to have shared their grave!

Welford Rd plot uS1853

RYAN    MICHAEL   1875   AUG   20           age 1                   GREEN STREET   SAINT MARGARET
STORER   THOMAS   1890   OCT   31   age 3MTHS     NORTHGATE STREET   ALL SAINTS
HOLMES   FANNY   1898   MAY   2   age 35           BOROUGH LUNATIC ASYLUM   LEICESTER
HOLMES   WILFRED   1898   SEP   3   age 7MTHS     ASH STREET   LEICESTER
ROLLESTONE   JOHN   1899   JAN   18   age 87           THE WORKHOUSE   LEICESTER
BATES   BEATRICE EVELYN   1900   APR   28   age 7   FEVER HOSPITAL   LEICESTER
HOLMES   CHARLES A H   1900   OCT   10   age 3MTHS     34 NEWBY STREET   LEICESTER