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Irishman a foreigner ?
« on: Monday 02 March 15 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone tell me if an Irishman living in Aberystwyth in 1879 would have been considered a foreigner .

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Re: Irishman a foreigner ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 March 15 10:22 GMT (UK) »
If you mean officially the answer is no,  but there are places where folk in the next village are considered foreigners!  ;D

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Re: Irishman a foreigner ?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 March 15 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Ireland was a part of the United Kingdom until 1922.

So no more a foreigner than a Welshman, an Englishman or a Scot! ;D
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Re: Irishman a foreigner ?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 March 15 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for replying so quickly the reason I ask is because my G G Grandfather John Brodigan who was a sailor is refered to as one in an article about a ship wreck in a newspaper from that year .

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Re: Irishman a foreigner ?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 March 15 14:44 GMT (UK) »
At the time Aberystwyth was a busy port and as such there would have been people from all parts of UK living there as well as 'foreigners' from the rest of the world.    I remember being told of a Chinese laundry which apparently existed near the harbour in the early part of 20th century.

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Re: Irishman a foreigner ?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 March 15 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Dave that's very interesting hes always been a bit of a mystery man  in the family  Ive been searching for his birthplace for a long time my best bet is Ireland as it seems that's where his surname comes from .

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Re: Irishman a foreigner ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 March 15 15:46 GMT (UK) »
John Brodigan seaman married Martha Jones , Vulcan Place , Aberywstwyth at St Michaels Church Aberywstwyth on 30 May 1877.

 I can`t  find  either of them in 1881, but Martha is the head in other years.

John died in 1910, so we don`t have the 1911 to check.

It seems like John had a few lucky escapes, and there is more interesting info on John and his family here. 

A search just for "Brodigan" has some more surprises. ;)
 
http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/search/query?query=%22John+Brodigan+%22&date%5Bmin%5D=1804&date%5Bmax%5D=1919
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Re: Irishman a foreigner ?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 March 15 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your reply I've looked at the web site you mention , it appears my G G Grandmother was rather to fond of beer.but she probably had a very hard life so I will forgive her for it .