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Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« on: Wednesday 04 March 15 03:41 GMT (UK) »
My great grandfather, Robert Ness died at The Liquorstane Temperance Hotel, Falkland on 14 May 1897.  His wife, Catherine and and two of their daughter, Ann and Mary were the hotel keepers after that.

Can anyone give me any information about this hotel or the Ness family who were carriers / coachmen in the Falkland area around the turn of the century.

Many thanks
Lorand.
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Re: Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 March 15 07:17 GMT (UK) »
"Robert Ness b 20.1.1842 Falkland m on 14.6.1865 Falkland to Catherine Dowie b 22.12.1841 Kettle, Fife
Children:
Robert Ness bc 1866 d 1867 Glasgow
Christine Ramsay Ness b 29.5.1868 Glasgow m 7.11.1890 East Port, Falkland to James McCall
Ann Bain Ness b 8.7.1870 Edinburgh d 9.10.1949 Falkland
John Ness bc 1872 d 22.10.1876 Falkland
John Ness bc 1873 d 8.11.1877 Falkland
Catherine Ness b 29.4.1875 d 17.9.1876 Falkland
Betsey Ness b 1877 Falkland m 7.4.1889 Temperance Hotel Falkland to John Fernie
Mary Ness b 1.5.1878 Falkland 2.4.1908 Temperance Hotel Falkland m to Andrew Laing
Robert Ness b 1880 d 9.1.1928 Falkland
Archibald Ness b 1886 Falkland m 22.11.1906 Kilgowrie Know Farm Falkland to Janet Maxwell

In the 1881/1891 Census Robert's occupation was a Carrier/Coach Hirer living at East Port then the High Street Falkland.  He died on 14.5.1897 at the Liquorstane Temperance Hotel, Falkland (which is now the Masonic Lodge)
In the 1901 Census his widow Catherine  is listed as the Temperance Hotel Keeper and her children Ann & Mary were general servants in the hotel and Robert and Archibald were Coachmen and domestics."

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Re: Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 March 15 07:18 GMT (UK) »
A great photogaph of the hotel here on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/FifeFamilyHistorySociety

Robert Ness born 20 Jan 1842 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland
Father's Name, Robert Ness
Mother's Name, Ann Bayne

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Re: Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 March 15 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the info, Whiteout7.  I do have a photo of the hotel but was unable to post it as it's too big.

Is the photo at the top of the Fife Family History Facebook page with all the people standing in the road, that of the Temperance Hotel, as it looks different to mine? 

Lorand
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Re: Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 March 15 03:05 GMT (UK) »
No but I think you have the photo. Unfortunately it did not link to it.

It is the photograph of the hotel with a cart infront of it. Looks like the Temperance hotel was on a hill not the flat.

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Re: Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 March 15 03:17 GMT (UK) »
Besty and Mary Ness appear to have been Catherine Dowies daughters from her previous marriage.

Robert Ness also had a nephew called David Muir (born 1864 in Glasgow) working for him as a cab driver in 1891.
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Re: Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 March 15 22:50 GMT (UK) »
I did not know that Catherine Dowie had been married before.  They were such big families back then!

Yes, my photo has the cart in front, but I believe the two ladies in the photo are not the Ness women??

My direct line is from Christina Ness, the oldest daughter and my great grandmother who married James McCall.  I would love to find a photo of her.

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Re: Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 March 15 23:10 GMT (UK) »
I notice that you also have Clarks in your ancestors. 

 I have John Clark b 5/2/1830, a coalminer and son of John Clark and Margaret Goodall.
John married  Janet Gilmour and they had one daughter, Mary 1854 - 1940

Mary Clark married William Balfour 1846-1926. 
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Re: Temperance Hotel, Falkland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 04:50 GMT (UK) »
My Clarks are unrelated unfortunately
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