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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 March 15 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Claire,

   Apparently, Wendron baptisms are complete on FreeReg, so Katherine DUNSTONE must have been baptised outside the parish.

   Unfortunately, most of the surrounding parishes have not been transcribed back that far.

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George
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 March 15 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi George,

I'm having the same problem looking for a baptism for  Bennet the father of Anne Dunstone.

However I have found this record for a Catherine Tocker, not sure if it might be a bit early but it's in the area

Katheryn HARVEY (TOOKER) bapt. 28 Sep 1636 Constantine.
Parents: Thomas TOOKER and Sara HARVEY

Possibly parents were not married if both surnames were given, there is a marriage at Constantine in 1639 of Thomas TOOKER to Jane HUNT

claire
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 March 15 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Claire,

   You're right - it is a bit early, but, if it's the right one, she would still only be 38 on her marriage in 1674.

   The surname seems to be fairly rare, and Constantine is contiguous with Wendron, so there must be a good chance that she is OK.

   It looks as if Gabriel & Catherine had only two more children:-

        05 Mar 1676/77  Katherine TEPPET
        24 Feb 1681/82  Samuel TIPPAT

by which time Catherine would have been 46, which might explain why the family was limited.

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George
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 March 15 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Wonder if Gabriels father was a Gabriel ?

FS have this baptism

Richard TEPPAT bp. 2 March 1655 Wendron. Father: Gabrial TEPPAT

Wendron records have it too, plus

Thomas bp. 7 Feb 1646 son of GABRYYAN TIPPAL
Barven ? bp. 27 Apr. 1669 son of Gab.ll

there seems a big gap in between baptisms

claire
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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 March 15 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Claire,

   I think you're right, a gap of 23 years is generational rather than familial. The odds must be that Gabriel was the son of Gabriel.

   Incidentally, I notice that the TIPPET family is found of OT names. In addition to Gabriel I've found Samuel and Daniel in different generations.

George
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 March 15 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Claire,

   On the LUCE family, I seem to remember that Clare Booth LUCE was a US Ambassador or some such. Any link?

George

BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 07 March 15 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi George,

There has been much debate of this branch of the Luce family. Clare Boothe Luce ( Ann Clare Boothe) married Henry LUCE who was a direct descendant of the one of the first recorded Luces in America ~ Henry Luce bn c1640 United Kingdom. But no-one can pinpoint where he was born.

It is said the Luce family originated from France and were of Huguenot descent and settled into the U.K. I know my Luce ancestors appear in the St Stephens by Saltash registers as early as the 1500's, but I'm not sure.

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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 March 15 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

This could be a long post so bear with me.

Found another Katherine TOCKER baptism, which I think is more than likely correct given the date.

KATERIN TOOKER bp. 24 June 1647 Breage, dau. of James and Anna.

 Other siblings ~ Thomas bp. 12 Sept. 1637,  John bp. 9 May 1640 and  Elizabeth bp. 4 June 1643.

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Having not found any BMD of Gabriel TIPPET, who could be the father of your Gabriel~ or any baptism of your Gabrial either,  I decided to check  Hearth Tax Records and Protestation Rolls,where he should appear. In the Hearth Tax records of 1664 there is no Gabriel in Wendron but a GAVERGAN TIPPETT who is the father of a Gavergan Tippett. I think Gavergan and Gabrial are one and the same.

Look at the image of the marriage between Gabrial Tippet and Catherine Tocker, that could be Gavri, it is shortened from something ~ maybe Gavergan

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11625-27139-30?cc=1769414&wc=M6NJ-G29:138123201,142405601,142417201

I then turned to the Protestation Rolls of 1641, there is one record for TIPPET in Wendron ~ John TEBBAT. However Gaverigann TIPPETT shows up in St Wenn, it has to be him, that is an unusual name. If the family originate in St Wenn it could explain why there is no baptism record for your Gabrial/Gaverigan in Wendron he could have been born in St Wenn

I have found a tree of this family and this is what they have :

Gaverigan TIPPET ( 1610 - 1666) married Jane ?,
 
children: Gaverigan 1640, Daniel 1645, Thomas 1646, Ann 1650 and Richard 1655.

Son GAVERIGAN bn 1640 married firstly URSULA WOOD 22 Oct 1667 Wendron, and had children

Jane 1667, Gaverigan 1679 and Thomas 1670.

URSULA TIPPET nee WOOD buried 25 March 1671 Wendron

Gaverigan Tippett remarried Catherine Tocker and had children

John 1675, Katherine 1676 and Samuel 1681.

From this point you know John TIPPETTS history.

So the question is ~ Is Gabrial really Gaverigan ? It could be worth looking into. I can let you have the details of Wills left by Gaverigan and Jane Tippet ( the parents).

Regards

claire

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Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: TIPPET, TOCKER & DUNSTONE
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 March 15 17:05 GMT (UK) »
George

Have you seen this record ?

A Henry TIPPETT of Wendron labourer, was charged with a felony at the Sessions held at Lostwithiel  15 July 1740 ~ to be transported to America for 7 years.

Bodmin sessions 6 October 1741 ~ Treasurer to pay Philip Lyne, Clerk of the Peace, one guinea for preparing contracts for transporting Strout and other convicts in April 1740, one guinea for Foss and Tippett in Oct. 1740.

Bodmin sessions 7 October 1741 ~ Treasurer (east) to pay Philip Lyne, Clerk of the Peace, usual allowance of one guinea for contracts for transportation of Thomas Foss and Henry Tippett (previously convicted).

You may have had a naughty ancestor in the family  :)

claire

Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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