William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847

[jaybelnz]

Williams father was Thomas McAughtrie, his mother Elizabeth McGaw

Thomas's last known residence in Scotland was 1861 in Barr, Water of Gregg, at Changue Farm aged 14 Agricultural Labourer!

First appearance I have of him is in NZ 1875 in Mount Ida, Otago.

Thanks

Jeanne 😃

[Rosinish]

Thomas's last known residence in Scotland was 1861 in Barr, Water of Gregg, at Changue Farm aged 14 Agricultural Labourer!

Just wondering what's going (was there more than 1 page) on 1861 as the page I saw read as follows:

William McAughtrie
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Barr, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 580
Registration district: Barr
Civil Parish: Barr
County: Ayrshire
Address: Water Of Gregg Chanque
Occupation: Agricultural Labourer
ED:1
Household schedule number:113
LINE: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_83

Household Members:

Name       Age
Janet Boyle 67
Alexander Laing 24
William McAughtrie 14

So I was wondering how you know this is the correct William

Annie
 
Added. If you don't have his marriage or death cert. how do you know who his parents are 

[jaybelnz]

It's in the family document that I have Annie. He was boarding and working at the Changue Farm of a family friend.

Thanks
Jeanne 😃

[jaybelnz]

In post 27,"Thomas's last known residence in Scotland was 1861" should read William!
Sorry. But the good news is I have just received his death printout!

WILLIAM ARRIVED IN NEW ZEALAND IN 1866 - of course that's always assuming the person who gave the info knew that!    His father isn't named either, just a hyphen mark, Mother's there OK, and wife etc. and other details there though! I guess a lot hangs on the knowledge of the notifier!

My father gave the death details for his mother when she died.  He named her first husband as John Welsh.  But his name was Samuel Welsh!!  But with her name being Jane Dreghorn Douglas, it was actually a breeze to find her marriage to Samuel on SP and also the subsequent 3 births of my Dad's stepsisters.

Anyway, it's knocked five years off, so that's great! Gradually shaving it down.

Thank you all so much!
Jeanne

[Rosinish]

Just begin a new thread including only the appropriate/relevant info. with as much detail as posiible if it's for info. after he arrived in NZ

Annie

[Janette]

I think it is easier to just keep this thread going rather than start a new one,you could put all the relevant info in the next post stating what you have and what you are still trying to find out.


Cheers Janette

[jaybelnz]

OK this is where I'm at to date!

WILLIAM McAUGHTRIE
Confirmed:  Birth: Barr, Ayrshire 22nd May, 1847 Parents William McA and Elizabeth McGaw
Confirmed:  Last place of Residence in Scotland- aged 14 Changue Farm, Barr 1861Census
Confirmed:  First known place of Residence in NZ, Mount Ida,Otago Aged 28,1873 Elect.Roll     
Years in NZ - 63, from Death Printout - and of course dependent on the informant's knowledge,that
                         would make arrival year 1866 (plus or minus 1 year)
                 
Pretty sure these dates and ages blend in together, but I am not known for my thinking skills in maths! So after a lot of agony, I finally thought of adding those ages to his birth year, I think its OK now, but I happily stand to be corrected!

The important part for me is that I still need help to find that elusive Passenger List to confirm his arrival date in NZ. But if I don't find that, I'll go with the c1866 in the meantime - the death info has at least narrowed the time frame, if the 63 years in NZ is indeed correct.Thanks for your help, yet again!

Much appreciated
Jeanne

[Janette]

This has him in Mt Ida in early 1873

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=MIC18730404.2.24.2&srpos=1&e=-------100--1-byDA---0AUGHTRIE--

Cheers Janette

[jaybelnz]

Wheeeee !  👍 you're good Janette, I missed that one!  Well, that's shaved another 2 years off - well done you!
😃
Thanks
Jeanne