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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 March 15 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Annie, pure typo...  he was 83 when he died. My mistake! 
:) Jeanne

Thanks again Spades, I'll check out that thesis!

 Would You believe I'm sitting here in my dressing gown, haven't even had my shower yet! Now I gotta go and get cracking to get groceries, and the weather is packing in, a few wind gusts and looks like the promised rain is about to hit us here in Wgtn.

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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 March 15 23:07 GMT (UK) »
Do you have William's death certificate? This should tell you how many years he had lived in New Zealand.

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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 March 15 23:19 GMT (UK) »
I've just had a look for him on Papers Past http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

Just under 100 hits for "mcaughtrie" but over 300 (and more historical references) for "m'aughtrie". I see he enjoyed curling. His wife died in 1918, her surname given as MUNRO.

Can you confirm her maiden name?

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 March 15 00:16 GMT (UK) »
I don't have a death or marriage certificate for them unfortunately.  Looks as though I might have to splash out on that one!  Her maiden name was Munro.. Kate or CATHERINE Helen Lavannah Munro.  She married Alexander Hector McKinnon in 1881, and then William McA in 1886.  There is a reference in the family document to the 1st marriage, she seems to have married under the name Munro, although there is "McKinnon Widow" scribbled beside it.   But the only way I can be entirely sure of that as well I guess - is to open the Wallet!

I found the info re the McKinnon marriage on an Ancestry public tree, but it's unsourced, but with her quite distinctive name, and the only public tree on there amongst quite a few for her and William  McA, I'm picking that it's probably ok. So the cert would be good to confirm that too!

Yes Spades, heaps of stuff on Papers Past, even down to his appt to a school committee!  Govt sheep returns etc!   The McAughtrie family continues to thrive in the area.  Years ago, I was in contact with one of their direct descendants in Oamaru.  It was she that sent me the document that I have. Pity there's nothing it it about how and when he came to NZ, apart from the reference to the ship Sevilla, from the Ayr Newspaper.

 Sadly We lost contact, and I believe that she may have passed away.  She was unmarried and no children to confirm that.

Oh well, thanks again for your input people, I'll see what I can do about a death cert. and I'm about to email the Oamaru genealogy people.

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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 March 15 04:11 GMT (UK) »
With her unusual combination of christian names this looks like her

1881/2093   Kate Ellen Savannah    Munro  to    Alexander Hector    McKinnon
The children
1882/4366   McKinnon    William Grant    /Kate Ellen Savannah   /Alexander Hector   
1883/8829   McKinnon    Margaret Robertson    /Kate Helen Lavannah   /Alexander Hector   
1884/12876   McKinnon    Alexander Hector    /Kate Hellen Lavannah   /Alexander Hector
Alexander's death
1884/450   McKinnon    Alexander Hector    30Y
marriage
1886/3385   Kate Hellen Lavannah    McKinnon to    William    McAughtrie

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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 March 15 04:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janette,

Been for any bike rides recently? 😜

Thanks for that info re Kate! Great!

I have been searching electoral rolls today and the earliest NZ entry for William is 1875, aged 28. Mount Ida Spec Gully, Sod and Iron house!  I have several more, which is good, but the earliest one gives me a tighter timeframe to find the beginning of that big OE experience!

1880 shows him still in Mount Ida, by now aged 33, and now a miner!  Wonder if he was after the GOLD!  He certainly seemed to finish up owning a lot of property! 

I have a lot of living relatives in the areas of Invercargill and Oamaru, and Canterbury, but not of this family.  I remembered that I do however have a keen genealogy buff in Nightcaps from a different family line of my Watson grandmother, the one that married a McAughtrie! He has access to his own Club stuff and also a lot if CD's that he has himself.  I didn't even think about asking him until this afternoon, as its usually just Watson stuff that we confer on!  DUH! So I've emailed him as well!
The more the merrier I guess!

People tell me that Researching family history is either unhealthy and obsessive to the point of OCD, and nothing else matters,  OR good for the brain.....and keeps the thinking and analytical parts of the brain sparking!!  But I'm beginning to wonder which category I fit into!   A bit of both I guess 😃

Thanks again
Jeanne 😃



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DUNNELL,  England
PAULSON,  England
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WALKER,   Scotland
WATSON,  England, Ayrshire, Scotland, NZ
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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 March 15 07:12 GMT (UK) »
I have just opened my wallet, got out my card and ordered his death Certificate online!  Well a printout of the record as the little notice on the site said it has more information on it! 

Seemed to be the best option at this stage!  Thank you so very much all for your help! 

Cheers
Jeanne   😃
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FLEMING,   Ireland
DUNNELL,  England
PAULSON,  England
DOUGLAS, Scotland, Ireland, NZ
WALKER,   Scotland
WATSON,  England, Ayrshire, Scotland, NZ
McAUGHTRIE, Ayrshire, Scotland, NZ
MASON,     Scotland, England, NZ
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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 March 15 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Kate Helen Lavannah McAughtrie

Death Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration Place: Kurow, Otago, New Zealand
Folio Number: 2989


ADDED...Just noticed this entry:

His wife died in 1918, her surname given as MUNRO.

 ??? ??? ;D ;D :o :o
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: William McAughtrie b Barr, Ayrshire, 1847
« Reply #17 on: Friday 06 March 15 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Kate Helen Lavannah McAughtrie
Death Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration Place: Kurow, Otago, New Zealand
Folio Number: 2989
His wife died in 1918, her surname given as MUNRO.

Could the 1932 death be a daughter  ???

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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