Beatrice May

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Still sorting my Patricks - bless them...

and am hoping someone can help me with the children of Frederick Raven Patrick and Phillipa..

I have them down as having 10 children - between 1879 and 1895

So the names I have are:
1879 ?? - stillborn unknown!!!
1879  - Sylvia Blanche - this lady is definite and I have the cert.
1881 - Albert ( who changed his name to suit!!!!) also definite. have details.
1882 - Frederick William again a name changer and definite. have details....

now I have a query that in 1884 or thereabouts there is a.n.other baby
and she could be Susan or Beatrice May??

1885 - Florence definite have lovely pics and details on this lady - as my Pops was in touch with her.
1886 - Fred Raven ... I have just received his birth cert and that shows he a son.. he however died in infancy.

1888 - My lovely Gran Esther xxx

1893 - a possible Fergus... still born ?

1895 - Cecil Charles another one who changed his name... bless him - I have him as Charles Chambers whilst serving in the forces.

Well that is all I have - 
I have now got the Baptism disc for St. Margarets.. but it doesnt show this lot!!!!

So anyhelp would be lovely

Thanks again (sorry to be a pain xx)

xin

[nanny jan]

Hi xin,

Using FreeBMD I found this:

Births:     Beatrice Mary Patrick   Sep Q 1885   Leicester 7a  205

Deaths:   Beatrice Mary Patrick  Sep Q 1885  Leicester  7a  117    (age shown as  0 )


Nanny Jan

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Thanks Nanny Jan,

looks like another £9.25 odd to spend to clarify this one

xin

[Annie65115]

Hold fire ------- Any help? Would the addresses fit?

Welford Rd, as always. Plot cL195

POULSON   ELIZABETH   1852   JAN   29   age 81   LEICESTER UNION WORKHOUSE   SAINT MARGARET
OLDHAM   SAMUEL   1879   JAN   29   age 2      CURZON STREET   SAINT MARGARET
OLDHAM   EDITH   1886   APR   29   age 10WKS   NEW EVINGTON   LEICESTERSHIRE
PATRICK   FREDERICK   1887   MAY   20   age 6MTHS    NEW EVINGTON   LEICESTERSHIRE
PATRICK   ETHEL   1890   AUG   18   age 5MTHS     HUMBERSTONE ROAD   SAINT GEORGE
PATRICK   BEATRICE MAY   1893   AUG   3   age 14DAYS   PERCY STREET   SAINT MARGARET
YOUNG   CLARA ELIZABETH   1946   MAY   24   age 76   80 MONTAGUE ROAD   LEICESTER

[Annie65115]

If this is your Fred b 1886, then looks like Beatrice May was certainly part of the family - and you've got an Ethel thrown in for free   

[Annie65115]

No Fergus in Welford Rd and according to freeBMD, he was born in the same 1/4 at Beatrice, so if they had been twins I'd expect him to be in the same graveyard. So I'd think Fregus is probably not one of your Patricks.

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You done it again x Good one Annie... that is the correct address for the family -- thank you  

xin

oooh and Ethel now that is a query.

So no wonder poor Phillipa passed away so young - this lady was forever pregnant.

[Annie65115]

Where did you get the figure of 10 children?

Looking at freeBMD, I doubt that 1879 stillbirth was theirs as Blanche was born sometime that same Summer. There was a 2 day old unnamed baby Patrick buried on 31 March 1879, from willow st, child of Azias Patrick (wonder if that is a mistranscription?

[Annie65115]

In fact I can totally see how this lot confused -- Can't see Fred Raven or Esther's births on freeBMD and why was Fred Raven called Fred when they already had a Fred william?


(scrub that -- coz they'd moved to Billesdon district not Leic!)