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Baker: Carbonear, NL
« on: Monday 16 March 15 12:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I am researching the Baker family from Carbonear, and later Harry's Harbor, Notre Dame Bay, Newfoundland.
My gr-gr-gr grandfather, Job Baker, was bap.1835. I have a copy of his baptism from Harbor Grace parish records. His father is entered as  John, his mother, Sarah (unknown) from Carbonear.  Job ended up settling in Harry's Harbor, NDB, after marrying Rachel Dorey in Black Island.

I have for many years tried to ascertain John and Sarah's parentage, or marriage record, to no avail. Any leads appreciated.
Thanks!
Baker: Dorset, England > Newfoundland > Massachusetts
Peddle: England > Newfoundland
White: Dorset, England > Newfoundland
Magner: Co. Cork, Ireland > Boston
Otto: Eisfeld, Thuringia, Germany > Boston
McDonald: Co. Carlow, Ireland > Fall River, Massachusetts
Thayer: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England > Braintree, Massachusetts
Marks: Portugal > Massachusetts
Gilmore: Co. Westmeath, Ireland > Massachusetts
Farnum, Phillips: England > Barbados

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Re: Baker: Carbonear, NL
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 March 15 16:11 GMT (UK) »
Carpenter - B'ham Warwick,
Cole - Devon
Coy - Germany
Langmaid - Cornwall & Hants
Rayment - Herts & Kent
Holt - ? England

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Re: Baker: Carbonear, NL
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 March 15 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi JDC,
I have seen that post. I replied with pretty much the same post as this. As of now, I am still awaiting a reply.
Thanks for letting me know!
Steve
Baker: Dorset, England > Newfoundland > Massachusetts
Peddle: England > Newfoundland
White: Dorset, England > Newfoundland
Magner: Co. Cork, Ireland > Boston
Otto: Eisfeld, Thuringia, Germany > Boston
McDonald: Co. Carlow, Ireland > Fall River, Massachusetts
Thayer: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England > Braintree, Massachusetts
Marks: Portugal > Massachusetts
Gilmore: Co. Westmeath, Ireland > Massachusetts
Farnum, Phillips: England > Barbados

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Re: Baker: Carbonear, NL
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 March 15 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi phenmark,

Have you checked out the provincial archive for info? here is their site addy: http://www.therooms.ca/archives/family_history_collections.asp. Newfoundland was separate from Canada until 1949, after WW2, before then they did their own records I believe, including BMD. Here is another link to check out: https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/genealog.php.

Hope that helps,

JDC
Carpenter - B'ham Warwick,
Cole - Devon
Coy - Germany
Langmaid - Cornwall & Hants
Rayment - Herts & Kent
Holt - ? England


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Re: Baker: Carbonear, NL
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 19:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks JDC!
Baker: Dorset, England > Newfoundland > Massachusetts
Peddle: England > Newfoundland
White: Dorset, England > Newfoundland
Magner: Co. Cork, Ireland > Boston
Otto: Eisfeld, Thuringia, Germany > Boston
McDonald: Co. Carlow, Ireland > Fall River, Massachusetts
Thayer: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England > Braintree, Massachusetts
Marks: Portugal > Massachusetts
Gilmore: Co. Westmeath, Ireland > Massachusetts
Farnum, Phillips: England > Barbados

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Re: Baker: Carbonear, NL
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 April 15 23:46 BST (UK) »
I imagine you have seen that a John BAKER was born Nov 22 1816   Carbonear   bap Apr 23 1817   
n to Samuel Baker & Jane PELLEY ...They were Married 1815 Carb METH.  There was also a sister Mary, born 1819.
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Re: Baker: Carbonear, NL
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 April 15 00:55 BST (UK) »
I imagine you have seen that a John BAKER was born Nov 22 1816   Carbonear   bap Apr 23 1817   
n to Samuel Baker & Jane PELLEY ...They were Married 1815 Carb METH.  There was also a sister Mary, born 1819.

Thanks JJ!
Yes, for years I had thought Sam and Jane to be John's parents. I then got a post on the NFLD site from a researcher who found this at the Archives:
"John of Samuel & Jane Baker b Oct. 13 1836, bap June 4 1837. This would suggest that the John born to them 1816 died and this son was named in his memory. In which case, the Job who did go to Harrys Harbour cannot be the grandson of Samuel & Jane."

So that was kind of deflating. I still am uncertain what to think.
Thanks. Please let me know any thoughts you may have.
Baker: Dorset, England > Newfoundland > Massachusetts
Peddle: England > Newfoundland
White: Dorset, England > Newfoundland
Magner: Co. Cork, Ireland > Boston
Otto: Eisfeld, Thuringia, Germany > Boston
McDonald: Co. Carlow, Ireland > Fall River, Massachusetts
Thayer: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England > Braintree, Massachusetts
Marks: Portugal > Massachusetts
Gilmore: Co. Westmeath, Ireland > Massachusetts
Farnum, Phillips: England > Barbados

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Re: Baker: Carbonear, NL
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 April 15 15:37 BST (UK) »
It does seem rather odd, then, that the 17 or 18 years in between didn't have records of any children baptized, or whom have died in between. Not saying that is not the case...but a shame if that's the only available records for this couple. Or did they also fill in the blanks as well.It was a shame that person volunteering time didn't add that post to the resouce page for NFLD as to put it on the boards  only made it visible at the time of posting, then is visible only with properly keyworded searches.

If that researcher could not find more for you in the Methodist baptisms, I'm afraid we only have what is available online, which is sparse information.
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Re: Baker: Carbonear, NL
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 April 15 15:53 BST (UK) »
So they moved to Black Island...

Sam Baker a witness at  the marriage of Job, would he not be a brother or father?

Samuel & Jane Baker were witnesses at the Black Island marriage of Elizabeth BAKER to George NOSEWORTHY Aug 19 1844   

Sam Baker Sr. & Job Baker were witnesses at the  Morton's harbour marriage of Ann Maria BAKER (Black Island) & Richard MEW, Black Island on  Oct 9 1856

adding:
Some pages say the marriage of Samuel was 1815 some say 1805??
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Passenger/immigrants.shtml

adding: ach, nevermind, I see Job's son was Samuel... Let me guess, he was the first son...I think you'll just have to go digging there in the archives yourself to prove your ancestry.
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