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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 19 March 15 22:58 GMT (UK) »
I'd agree with Ancestry; looking at the transcription it looks like Sibley to me, and FreeBMD has this

Births Dec 1861   (>99%)
Sibley    George         Barrow    7a   127


So; not Sibby; not Cooper; probably nothing at all to do with anyone in Markfield in 1908 ----

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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 19 March 15 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Also from that 'alpha' census,
12 people living at Charnwood House, this is the only person with surname Cooper living there:

61(Orig Order) 21 (Schedule Order)  Charnwood House Leicester Road Lillah M Cooper Boarder S 15 F Scholar Peckleton, Leics

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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 19 March 15 23:14 GMT (UK) »
This looks to be the above Lillah M Cooper in 1861 (and she looks to be still unmarried in 1911)]
   
Civil Parish:   Peckleton  County/Island:   Leicestershire
Registration district:   Market Bosworth  Sub-registration district:   Market Bosworth
Richard Cooper   51  Head  widower
Mary A N Cooper   22
Helen S Cooper   12
Christian M Cooper   9
Joseph M Cooper   7
Lillah M Cooper   5  Tooley Park, Leicestershire, England
Thomas H Cooper   4
Elizabeth Armson   30
Jane Chamberlain   20
George Marriott   18

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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 19 March 15 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Danone's greatgrandather was Joseph Cooper b Markfield. Joseph's son, Ernest, was Danone's grandfather, b 1907.

Joseph's brother was James Cooper, b 1874ish.

James had a son called John Sidney Cooper b 1905 -- this may have been "Sibby" Cooper, the boxer.

If this is the case, "Sibby" would have been Ernest's first cousin.

The Sibley family in Woodhouse (1871) are probably nothing at all to do with all this. (In bold to try to make a point to the OP as I think the other researchers can see this!)

And at the risk of repeating myself, this may have been much clearer from the start if the info given had been clearer at the start.

So to my mind that clears up the connection between "Sibby" and Ernest as well as we can, without spending on certificates etc.

Any connection with a Sketchley family is a different issue and we have been given no evidence or links to suggest that there is really any connection at all.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)


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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 19 March 15 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Gone back to opening post, and the question asked:

'So what iam after what is the connection from Sibby cooper to the sketchley family'

There is no Sibby Cooper in 1871.

QED

Added:
Sorry, Annie, your added post did not show, but I totally agree with you.

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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 17:01 BST (UK) »
Hi whiteout
This is what I was after Emma would have been my grandfathers niece then as he lived next door to Emma and the family the numbers were 11-13 ashby road markfield .my grandad was Ernest cooper born 1913  father Joseph cooper blacksmith born 1875 he married Mary Ellen Massey markfield she didn't know who her father was .on the the marriage cert .
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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 22 April 18 14:04 BST (UK) »
I am not sure if I am able to give the information being requested, because of the various posts on 'Sibby' Cooper, including one post regarding the possibility of him being a gardener for Mr Murphy.

I am the remaining sibling of the said Mr Richard Murphy, and unfortunately my sister who passed away recently might have had the information you are requiring. My late brother would have also had this information, but alas, this post as arrived rather late for them to offer any help.

My own understanding of a 'Sibby' Cooper, was either as a tenant farmer or manager of a small acreage farm at Copt Oak, Leicestershire,  which my father owned. Whilst in this roll of farmer, 'Sibby' was badly crushed by a cow. The farm was also reduced in size, due to the M1 motorway dividing the property, when motorways were the new idea for faster transportation. So the actual farm became non-viable.

As I understand 'Sibby' then may have taken up part-time gardening activities for my father.I also recall, that 'Sibby' was a pro boxer, as were many people at that time, making spare money. I also seem to recall, that part of Leicestershire, like most rural places, the Markfield area, was a tightly knit community, with each family having some form of tie with each other. Mining in the area, was also a very big employer, with quite a number of well known coal mining pits.

 'Bobby' Copson was the very well known local resident police officer, so perhaps a delve into any police records held at that time, might bring further directions for added information, on 'Sibby' Cooper in the 1930/40/50 era.

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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #25 on: Friday 04 May 18 10:29 BST (UK) »
Sibby Cooper of Markfield is mentioned in the Northampton Chronicle and Echo 14 May 1930, so he was boxing then
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Re: James Sibby cooper
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 26 May 18 08:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie
You found the person I was after in the last one you put on for me
Ste