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Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« on: Friday 20 March 15 00:13 GMT (UK) »
I am after information on the marriage of Mary Esther "????" who married "John Jones" about 1862 in
Birkenhead. Mary Esther could have been a "Mary Esther Jones"

John Jones was a Pawnbroker of Birkenhead he died 1886

Mary Esther died 1877

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Re: Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 March 15 07:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nc.

The only one that I can see on Cheshirebmd is...
John Jones and Mary Esther Pover 1866 at Birkenhead St Mary.

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk
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Re: Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 March 15 08:03 GMT (UK) »
John Jones 28 bach Pawnbroker 166 Cleveland St
Father John Jones occ Registrar of Births & Deaths
Mary Esther Pover spinster 11 Clifton Crescent
Father Thomas Pover occ Butcher.
Married by licence 10 Jan 1866 Birkenhead St Mary
Witnesses Joseph Cabry? Joseph Whisley
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Re: Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 March 15 08:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nc.

The only one that I can see on Cheshirebmd is...
John Jones and Mary Esther Pover 1866 at Birkenhead St Mary.

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk

totally agree with Rolnora on this one - I have found the baptism of Mary Esther Pover and although she was Baptised in Neston - her abode is Birkenhead ...this may suggest that Mary Esthers mother was from Neston ?
http://cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
Mary Esther Pover baptised 26th May 1844 in Neston Parish
father - Thomas Pover
mother - Jane
fathers occupation - Butcher
.......................................................
same site
14th dec 1842 at Neston Parish - Thomas Pover (widower) aged 35 - butcher - abode Birkenhead to
 Jane Cabrey (spinster) aged 35 from Neston Parish ...
grooms father = Thomas Pover - Butcher
brides father = Joseph Cabrey - Engineer
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 March 15 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Good finds garstonite  :)
I'm glad you found the Cabrey surname :)
It was hard to read and I wasn't at all sure that I had it right.
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Re: Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 March 15 08:39 GMT (UK) »
only used your info that you gave - just had a feeling it would be on CPRDb ...and it was ...in fact I would think with the Neston Cabrey surname - you may be able to go back further ...

the brother of Jane Cabrey has a baptism
27th May 1842 - Thomas Cabrey - Neston
father Joseph Cabrey - Engineer
mother Ann
abode NESS - not Neston ...Ness is a little village close to Neston
so ...a marriage for Joseph Cabrey to Ann - I am wondering if it is a typical Irish man ( probably Carberry ) whose Irish accent has been mistranscribed ....I think you might struggle to find this marriage
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 March 15 08:45 GMT (UK) »
well I got that wrong ...lol
Joseph Cabry b 1804 North Shields ,Northumberland
Ann Cabry in 1871 census born 1801 Chester
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBNH-TX7

they married Boxing Day 1825 at Holy Trinity ,Liverpool ....I knew scousers would come in to this ...lol
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKJZ-XBM
added
Ann Connah baptism and birth dates
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7QX-XPY
AND.....believe it or not - we go back to a Jones ....Hannah Jones
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N42F-YV9
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 March 15 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for the information it must be "Pover"  I thought they married much earlier
They had a daughter born about 1862 called " Mary Louisa Alexander Jones" in the 1871 census
as been 9 years old

John Jones father was a "Registrar" Mary Esther Jones died in 1877 and John remarried a Barbara

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Re: Jones and Jones Marriage 1862 Birkenhead
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 March 15 07:16 GMT (UK) »
Just in case you haven't got the details of John's second marriage :)

He married widow Barbara Anne Smith  4 Dec 1878 at Neston parish church.
Barbara's father was Joseph Cabry a farmer
Witnesses James Jones and Annie Green.
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