Hartshorn family

[SmallTownGirl]

I can't do that as I think I would need to use a scanner and the one I had doesn't work now.

Take a photo with either a camera or your phone and upload that.

STG

[DJH]

Why do THREE people married in Atcham in Sept 1856 have the same volume and page numbers? A bit odd I think

[Lostris]

Sorry, that William Hartshorn is on the 1871 in Church Pulverbatch, Atcham - so we can eliminate him - sorry, false alarm - back to check 1861 for our c1839 man !

[Lostris]

Why do THREE people married in Atcham in Sept 1856 have the same volume and page numbers? A bit odd I think

Not at all odd, tis correct; after the late 1850s a 'Page' contained 4 names - ie two couples marrying  ... it just doesnt tell you who married who !

[Lostris]

1861 has no William born Warks - but there is one of the right age born Bloxwich, Staffs - with a Father named Elijah ..... good clue given the eldest son in 1871 .....

I'll wait to see if you upload the Certificate ...

[Lostris]

Had a look at the 1851 census - bingo. William's Father must be an older son of this Elijah

In Hookagate .....

Elijah Hartshorn Head Married Male 54 born c1797 Coal Miner born St Julian,Shropshire
 
Elizabeth Hartshorn Wife Married Female 52 1799 - born Meole, Shropshire
 
Mary Hartshorn Daughter Unmarried Female 25 c1826 - born Meole, Shropshire
 
Hannah Hartshorn Daughter - Female 12 c1839 - born Meole, Shropshire
 
William Hartshorn Grand Son - Male 12 c1839 Scholar born Birmingham, Warks


I didnt notice if he was a Grandson back on the earlier 1861 census - and now wondering if theres a couple of Elijah's floating around !

Just checked and there are indeed 2 Elijah's - so not sure why this 1851 chap doesnt show up in 1861 in Hookagate .... hmmm

[Lostris]

OK, found them in 1861 - name spelled HARTSHORNE ..... in Hookagate as expected.

William is now shown as the SON of Elijah & Elizabeth (all others have left)  ....

We need to see older kids of E & E back on the 1841  .... just looked, still Hookagate, but eldest daur is 14 & eldest son present is 12 .....

I cant find a Birth Index entry for William's Birth in Warks ....

[DJH]

I think I will have to find out more about Williams birth. He needs to be old enough to have a child born about 1865.

[Lostris]

we know he was born c1839 in Brum from the 1851/61 & 71 census - but FreeBMD cant find a Birth there ....

You need to take a pic of that Marriage Cert !

Seems our last option to find his own Fathers name ...