Johns Family of St.Woollos, Newport

[rosie17]

1891 census address Leiceister Road Newport

John 52 coal merchant
Margaret 49, Mabel 21 , Lilian 19, Helena 17.William 15, Frank 12

1901 census same address
John age 62 coal merchant own account
Margaret 58,Mabel 30,Lilian 29,William 25 ( clerk ) John F 22 ( clerk )

[Ladyhawk]

This is the probate record for Llewellyn Johns 30 May administration of the personal estate of Llewellyn John late of 97.Commercial Road Newport in the county of Monmouth ..Grocer a bachelor who died 17May 1884 at 97 Commercial Road was granted at Llandaff to
 John Johns of 13,Melton Terrace Maindee near Newport coal merchant the brother and one of the next of kin
Personal Estate £38 3s 3d

John Johns & family 1881c 13 Melton Terrace
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQ3F-FGR

1871 census
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V556-GDJ

posting whilst red writing

[Ladyhawk]

Christening John & Margaret's dau Mabel
1869 St Woolas Newport
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1TP-424

possible marriage
Sep 1867 Newport, M. vol 11a page 270
JOHNS John name on same page HOWELLS Margaret

[Lance Matthews]

Thank you for this valued information.
Would love to find where any of the family were buried. Some relatives are visiting Newport at the start of April and would be good to visit a cemetery, where they could see a headstone, or get copies of the burials. As always the help you get from researchers makes everything possible, as shown with this subject.

[rosie17]

This looks like Henry Johns in the 1881 census born 1852 Newport occupation railway fireman  lodging with an Alice Ferguson address 4.Eastwood Street West Derby Lancashire her  sister Mary P Bromley b 1856 Preston Lancashire
Marriage Henry Johns b 1852 age 32 married 5 May 1884 Liverpool Lancashire father William Johns
Spouse Mary Parks Bromley

1891 Census address 24.Eastwood Street West Derby
Henry Johns b Newport age 39 occupation dock labourer
Mary Johns b Preston age 36
Alice b 1885 ..Mary R Johns b 1887 ..Gertrude Johns b 1890 all born Liverpool

[rosie17]

Not seeing Henry or his wife in the 1901 census but daughters Mary R Johns and Gertrude are with their Aunt Alice in West derby Lancashire

[Lance Matthews]

Thank you Rosie, most helpful, gives me quite a few directions I can now go to.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

A bit of family colour - Monmouthshire Merlin 29 Sept 1882

UNFRATERNAL BEHAVIOUR. Mathew Johns, stated to be a boiler maker, was charged with being drunk and disorderly and assaulting his brother, Llewellyn Johns, grocer, Commercial Road. On Sunday morning P.C. Smith, was on duty in Commercial-rood, and the prisoner was given into custody by his brother. Mathew was then very drunk, and was making use of very bad language towards the prosecutor. The latter, who had received a severe blow in the eye, stated that the prisoner was addicted to drink, and whilst he was under its influence he behaved very wildly. He (witness) did not desire to press the charge, but wished for a guarantee that his brother would not annoy him in the future. The prisoner, who expressed regret for his conduct, was bound over to keep the peace for six months.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Same paper - 24 May 1884

SUDDEN DEATH.—Mr. Llewellyn Johns, grocer, Commercial-road, died very suddenly on Saturday night. He fell down in his shop, and was removed to an inner room, where he died in a few minutes. Deceased was about 40 years old. and unmarried