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Lemuel Parker 1875
« on: Monday 30 March 15 17:28 BST (UK) »
Hi. wander if you might be able to help. Am looking for a great uncle who is supposed to be called Leonard Parker. He was bn c1870 in either beds or herts. They were a gypsy family. His mum was called Margaret. Dad i have no idea as not listed in the other 2 birth certs that i currently have for my 2xgg Eliza born 1872 in cranfield,Beds and her and leni's brother Solomon bn 1867, Millbrook,beds. I can not find a suitable Leonard. Now i do know he married Lemontina Draper in 1898 as Leonard. He died in 1962 in Bucks, but his death is registered as Lemi loveridge Parker. He was known as Lemi and his wife Lemmy.
(other siblings whose births i still cant find, Mariah 1876, Fanny 1864 and selina. There are probably a lot more). 
So i cant find anything on him or the rest of the family, but i have got a possible chap. A Lemuel Parker bn 1875 reg in Hemel Hempstead. I can not find anything out about this Lemuel, no death at all between 1875 and 1990 (well you have to be sure) no marriage, no census no nothing on a Lemuel Parker. So is this my lad, he was known as Lemi but his family are adamant he should be Leonard. But my granny peg leg probably spoke with an accent and she sure couldn't have written or spell so maybe that was as close as the registrar could get to whatever she was saying. So before i take the risk and buy the certificate i just thought i would see what people thought. could it be my man, or am i wildly clutching at straws or indeed leonards.
thanks Tracey
waters/walters-berkshire
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loveridge and parker romanies from suffolk,essex,beds,bucks and herts
gill- derbyshire
turvills-hinks,leicestershire
calladine and Bostock,pot hawkers-Derbyshire

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Re: Lemuel Parker 1875
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 April 15 08:06 BST (UK) »
Presumably there is no Father on his marriage certificate?

Do you know who registered the death and supplied the middle name 'Loveridge'?

If his family are adamant he is Leonard, why was he registered at death as Lemi?

Have you considered using the Travelling people board for more specialised ('Special Interests') help?

There is a private member's tree on Ancestry - is this your's, or known to you?

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Re: Lemuel Parker 1875
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 April 15 08:29 BST (UK) »
No father on marriage cert. No father for any of them listed, it might have been Luke, but only might. Ive spoken to his grandaughter and she isint sure why Loveridge was added, the 2 names are interchangable in the family. His brother solomon was known as Loveridge instead of Parker and im not sure if that is because his wife florabella was a loveridge or if it was one of there own family names. Travellers could use different names for different things, they might have used there grannys name or there dad's or anything else they fancied. Doesnt help much does it. I have posted about this family on the travellers page but no one could help, i posted here as this chap was born in herts. oh and Lemi probably because who ever registered couldnt spell and prob kept saying he was Lemi, i really dont know.
thanks for replying. Tracey
waters/walters-berkshire
tanner and adby- berkshire
loveridge and parker romanies from suffolk,essex,beds,bucks and herts
gill- derbyshire
turvills-hinks,leicestershire
calladine and Bostock,pot hawkers-Derbyshire

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Re: Lemuel Parker 1875
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 April 15 08:49 BST (UK) »
Yes, travelling families do avoid censuses and logical records and consistent names.

When I was looking for marriages, I found 2 for Lemon* Draper in 1898, and nothing else between 1838 and 1983.


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Re: Lemuel Parker 1875
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 April 15 08:53 BST (UK) »
Just seen this death - could it be the Hemel Hempstead birth from 1875?

 Death Index, 1916-2007
Lemuel Parker  Birth Date:   abt 1873
Date of Registration:   Mar 1950  Age at Death:   77
Winchester  6b 782

Though there was a Lemuel Parker birth in Bridlington in 1873...

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Re: Lemuel Parker 1875
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 April 15 08:58 BST (UK) »
Yes some of them certainly do, some families do feature. Lemi's wife;s family got caught twice in twi different census years so they didnt manage to avoid them. That must have really annoyed her dad nelson. My parkers on the other hand did very well at avoiding those nosy officials. still you cant blame them given the many many centuries of persecution and abuse.
I saw that death reg i dont know what to think does it rule lemuel out i wander. Its so not easy is it.
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loveridge and parker romanies from suffolk,essex,beds,bucks and herts
gill- derbyshire
turvills-hinks,leicestershire
calladine and Bostock,pot hawkers-Derbyshire

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Re: Lemuel Parker 1875
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 April 15 09:06 BST (UK) »
Once you start playing with the names, just about anything is possible.

Saw this birth:
Births June quarter 1883  Lematina Loveridge Wellingbro'   
and then nothing else under that spelling,

But presumably this is yours:
Births September quarter  1880  Lemontina Draper  Woodbridge   

Added:
Just seen these - too many:
Births Mar 1880 
 Lematina    Parker    Wycombe   
Births Mar 1916 
 Lematania Parker mmn Loverage    Luton   

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Re: Lemuel Parker 1875
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 April 15 09:08 BST (UK) »
yes mine is the 1880 one.
waters/walters-berkshire
tanner and adby- berkshire
loveridge and parker romanies from suffolk,essex,beds,bucks and herts
gill- derbyshire
turvills-hinks,leicestershire
calladine and Bostock,pot hawkers-Derbyshire