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John William Butcher
« on: Tuesday 31 March 15 19:21 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me please.I am looking for information on John William Butcher,b.27 Jan 1873,England.I have found out that he arrived in Toronto,1900,aged 49.His death is Ontario,20 March 1936.and i believe he was in the Canadian Army.All this information is on Ancestry,com and i cant open the links for that site.I am really interested in the military records.Thank you Glenys
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Re: John William Butcher
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 20:04 BST (UK) »
John William Butcher - 27/1/1873 - wife Minnie Butcher - 1 Ivy Avenue Toronto
Occupation:- Machinist.

Attestation Papers - 3 rd Bat Can Inf - Permanently Unfit  :'(

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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01f2e/ 

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Re: John William Butcher
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 20:32 BST (UK) »
Hi glen,
If he participated in WW1, he may have a service file at the Canadian National Archive. You would be able to locate his attestation papers for free there. His service file would be fee based, but the cost of copies is reasonable per page rate. Unfortunately the archive link is down at the moment.

Here is another link to check out: http://www.canadaatwar.ca/

Would this be your fellow?
John William Butcher
Birth:  27 Jan 1873 - Staffordshire, England
Death:  20 Mar 1936 - East York, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Spouse:  Minnie Breckles
There are 8 children shown in ths family tree.

Hope this helps,

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Carpenter - B'ham Warwick,
Cole - Devon
Coy - Germany
Langmaid - Cornwall & Hants
Rayment - Herts & Kent
Holt - ? England

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Re: John William Butcher
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 20:36 BST (UK) »
I am really grateful,thank you.How do i find the childrens names,are they on the link which is down?
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Re: John William Butcher
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 20:38 BST (UK) »
Hi glen,

Looks like he was in the military. If you go to the National Archive, you will be able to get his attestation document. Here is the info I found:

Name:    John William Butcher
Birth Date:    27 Jan 1873
Birth Location:    Wednesbury, Staffordahire, England
Relative:    Minnie Butcher
Regiment Number:    172112

I am assuming this is your man for now :-)...Let me know, if other wise.

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Carpenter - B'ham Warwick,
Cole - Devon
Coy - Germany
Langmaid - Cornwall & Hants
Rayment - Herts & Kent
Holt - ? England

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Re: John William Butcher
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 20:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Glen,

No they would be on that site. You should be able to find them on our census records - they go up to 1921 right now. You should be able to get the birth records for those born up to 100 years ago (1915) - that is due to privacy laws in Canada restriction after that time-frame.

Again hope this helps.

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Carpenter - B'ham Warwick,
Cole - Devon
Coy - Germany
Langmaid - Cornwall & Hants
Rayment - Herts & Kent
Holt - ? England

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Re: John William Butcher
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 20:47 BST (UK) »
The link to what is available on the Attestation Papers was in link 1

Lillian May BUutcher - 1897 – 1978 Married Thomas James Victor Merchant

http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/e/r/Nikki-J-Merchant/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0178.html

Flight Sergeant    Thomas James Kenifick Merchant - RCAF

http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/e/r/Nikki-J-Merchant/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0175.html

Thomas James Kenefick Merchant - 19 Feb 1925 - 26 June 2011 Omaha Nebraska USA


Eliza Butcher - 7 Feb 1902 – 1949 - Married Harry Anderson
Anthony John Butcher - 6 October 1905 – 8 th August 1906
Butcher  1905 – Married Aylmer Scanlon
Amy Constance Butcher -  6 September 1907 – 1994 - Married Sydney Maxwell Clute 13 Sept 1903 - 21 February 1984
Thomas William Butcher -  27 April 1909 – 12 July 1909
George James Butcher -  14 May 1911 – 1965
Isabell Butcher -  1914 - July 1914

Minnie Breckles - 1 May 1876 in  Birmingham, Warwickshire, England died  9 Jul 1949 in  Toronto, Ontario.

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 20:49 BST (UK) »
1 Ivy Avenue Toronto 1921

John W Butcher  49 Born 1872 Eng. Immigrated 1900. Express Agent.
Minnie Butcher  45
George Butcher  10 Lilian Butcher  24
Eliza Butcher  20 Amy Butcher  14
Laura Butcher  7

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 20:56 BST (UK) »
Lillian Butcher was born Wednesbury England 1898 married Thomas Merchant born 1898 Llantrisant, S Wales. Marriage 12 January 1924 - York Ontario. Witnesses William Gerigs and Alice Delcia Merchant.

Thomas was Thomas James Victor Merchant.

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