Frederick Craft

[ceeson]

Frederick Craft b. Gt Missenden 1874 or 1876.  Mother Ruth Wright b.1851.   Ruth married John Craft b.1856 in 1880 at Penn Street, Bucks

Trying to find Frederick's Birth registration or Baptism.   I wonder why Ruth & John did not marry until 1880  since both partners are listed as single on their marriage certificate?

One of my "brick walls!"

[groom]

Are you certain that Frederick was actually born a Craft, and that he didn't just assume his stepfather's name after the marriage? It may be that he was registered under a different name.

[Milliepede]

If his mother was single then he is probably under her surname.

[amber39]

There is  Frederick Charles Craft born 11/1/1874 at Gt. Missenden    Bucks.  Father George and mother Ellen.
Perhaps Frederick was a son of a former marriage and not son of Ruth.

Regards    Amber39

[groom]

I don't think that can be right as they are both in the 1881 census - one born 1874 with parents George Craft and Helen Craft and the other born 1876 with parents John and Ruth. Both born Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire.

[Milliepede]

No I agree George is the wrong father and Ellen/Helen the wrong mother so a previous marriage doesn't apply 

There are a few Frederick Wright births which is my guess. 

What district does Gt Missenden come under?  The births I saw were Newport Pagnell when searching Bucks.

[ceeson]

Thank you for such a speedy response!.   I have looked for a Frederick WRIGHT without success. Frederick Charles is not the right person.  I found him too.    I believe the registration district at that time to be Amersham but I could be wrong.   The 1881 Census shows Frederick as CRAFT with his mother, Ruth, who is newly married to John Craft.   Ruth Wright was an only child of  mature parents.  Her father was a widower prior to marriage to his second wife, Ruth's mother, who was a spinster of 40+ years.  Ruth had step siblings from her father's first marriage but I don't think Frederick would belong to them since they were already  living away from  home.

The comment about a birth of a Frederick Wright in another area of Buckinghamshire rings a bell about the existence of an unmarried mother & baby home.   I'll investigate the dates of its history.  I took the Gt. Missenden birth link from the Census records.

  Very many thanks to you all for your help .   I really am most grateful for any links/ ideas

           Cee

[groom]

What district does Gt Missenden come under

Amersham


It would make sense for him to be born away from home, especially if her parents considered it a disgrace.   

The fact that they didn't marry until well after his birth makes me think that the chances are that John Craft wasn't his biological father, but raised him as his own after the marriage. Ruth was about 25 when he was born, so wouldn't need her father's permission to marry, so there was nothing stopping them if he was the father.

[[Ray]]

Hi

Have just been reading other posts of yours. (Craft Darvill/Darvell)

In 1871 RG10 1303 33 P25 [ Chesham ] in case it is relevant . . . . .

There is a RuthW with 'rents Charles+Ann + siblings/cousins/uncle+auntRuth.
2 doors away is Wm+Sarah Wright + dau Selina 18 + grandson FREDERICK DARVILL 2


Ray