Author Topic: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens  (Read 3322 times)

Offline Whosthatchick

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 29
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« on: Saturday 11 April 15 03:36 BST (UK) »
I have been trying to trace the birth details of my great grandmother Ellen Agnes Heale.   Her father was William Henry and her mother Elizabeth (I think).   Apparently he came out to NZ with his young family after Elizabeth died.   He was married to a Louisa and died in NZ, but I am not sure whether his second marriage was in Jersey or New Zealand.   Have tried UK websites but cannot get any joy.   Can anyone point me in the right direction to get correct details, thanks.
Nock, Redman, Taylor, Ward

Online Nanna52

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 924
  • Edwin WB Vincent, my actor, (1881-1940)
    • View Profile
Re: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 April 15 04:03 BST (UK) »
Just another way to look, not help I'm afraid.  My great grandmother was a Heale from Somerset and her surname was often written as Hale.
James -Victoria, Australia originally from Keynsham, Somerset.
Janes - Keynsham and Bristol area.
Heale/Hale - Keynsham, Somerset
Vincent - Illogan/Redruth, Cornwall.  Moved to Sculcoates, Yorkshire; Grass Valley, California; Timaru, New Zealand and Victoria, Australia.
Williams somewhere in Wales - he kept moving
Ellis - Anglesey

Gedmatch A327531

Offline Whosthatchick

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 29
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 April 15 05:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks, I'll try that spelling variation.
Nock, Redman, Taylor, Ward

Offline Hill

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,104
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 April 15 11:39 BST (UK) »
Do you have any approximate dates?

Stewart


Offline rosie17

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,089
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 April 15 13:41 BST (UK) »
Hi as Stewart said if you give us some dates it will help also when William died ..what year your great grandmother was born the more information the better
Rosie :)

Offline Whosthatchick

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 29
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 April 15 02:36 BST (UK) »
My grandmother's birth certificate states that her mother Ellen Heale was born in St Helens, Jersey in approx 1866 (died in New Zealand about 1950).   We believe Ellen's mother was Elizabeth Smith, who died in 1868.    Not sure where Elizabeth was born or died.  Her father was William Henry Heale and he died in NZ in 1892 - he was buried with his second wife Louisa (nee Round).   I have been unable to find their surname in any of the search sites for the Channel Islands.
Nock, Redman, Taylor, Ward

Offline rosie17

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,089
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 April 15 10:59 BST (UK) »
This might be them in the 1871 census address Old St Johns Road St Helier Jersey Channel Isles
William H Heal b 1838 England occupation blacksmith
Louisa Heal b 1841 St Aubins Jersey
Martha Heal b 1862 St Helier
Alfred Heal b 1864 St Helier
Ellen Heal b 1866 St Helier
Emma Heal b 1870 St Helier

A tree has a William H Heale married to a Louisa Kaines 5/10/1867 St Helier
and a death date 1892 Taranaki New Zealand

Offline rosie17

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,089
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 April 15 11:48 BST (UK) »
This looks like the immigration record on www.familysearch
William Heal age 37 farm labourer
Louisa 35
Martha 13 ..Alfred 11 ,Louisa 9, ?Emma5, John 2, Elizabeth 8months
Date 30/11/1874 going to Taranaki /Wellington N Z

Offline rosie17

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,089
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Heale (Heal) family of St Helens
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 April 15 12:30 BST (UK) »
Afraid not finding much for Ellen maybe some of the other's might have better luck following on from the 1871 census this could possibly be him on the 1861 going by the occupation
William Heal b 1832 England blacksmith
Elizabeth Heal b 1836 St Helier
Henry Heal b 1860 St Helier ( no sign of him in 1871 ) with the family