Author Topic: lookup of children for Robert Boyd 1857 and Mary Ann Lawless  (Read 12056 times)

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Re: can anyone help with a lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 April 15 23:05 BST (UK) »
Thankyou. Im getting better but not as great searching the cencus, maybe im doing it wrong

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Re: can anyone help with a lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 April 15 23:07 BST (UK) »
What is the best way how to find husbands and wifes for these children. Where is the best place to look? Thanks

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« Reply #13 on: Monday 13 April 15 23:27 BST (UK) »
Hi her dad was called Joseph so not the one

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Re: can anyone help with a lookup please
« Reply #14 on: Monday 13 April 15 23:29 BST (UK) »
Sarahs parents were called Robert Boyd and Mary Ann Lawless. Ive tried on roots ireland but nothing at all

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Re: can anyone help with a lookup please
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 00:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Betty,

All Robert and Mary's children appear to be born in Rathdown registration district (R.D.) of Wicklow. The one's we know of from the censuses and FamilySearch baptisms:
- John, b. 15 Jun 1878
- Mary, b. 13 Aug 1880
- Margaret, b. 1884
- Thomas, b. 1886
- Catherine, b. 1891
- Sarah, b. 1896
- Ellen, b. 1898
- Hilda Maria, b. 11 Oct 1900

We know they had twelve children, eight of whom were still living in 1911 (5 at home, leaving 3 out in the world somewhere). John is probably this fellow - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No__2/Sidmonton_Avenue/892109/ - living with his wife Ellen Mary (née Coe), who he married in 1904 in Rathdown R.D.

The four remaining children are likely to have died young. I've been through the births and deaths registered in Rathdown district between 1877 (the year of Robert & Mary's marriage) and 1901 and found a few possibilities for their missing children:
- 'Male', b. 1878, d. 1878
- Agnes, b. 1879, d. 1879
- Philomena, b. 1879, d. 1885
- Ellen, b. 1881, d. 1881
- John James, b. 1887, d. 1887
- William, b. 1889, d. 1894
- Alfred Leo, b. 1888, d. 1888
- James, b. 1891, d. 1892
- William Joseph, b. 1894, d. 1894

Given the 'Male' Boyd and James Boyd were born the same years as known children of Robert and Mary, we can rule those out, leaving seven possibilities. Unfortunately, I can't whittle the list down any further from just the civil indices, so unless you purchase the certificates it's unlikely you'll know for sure which kids belong to your couple.

FYI, there's a Robert Boyd d. 1923 aged 61 registered in Rathdown, putting his birth c.1862 - a little out for your Robert, but that's not uncommon. Similarly, there's a Mary Boyd, d. 1919 aged 53 (b. c.1866), which may be his wife.

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Re: can anyone help with a lookup please
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 00:16 BST (UK) »
Thankyou very much Toban

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Re: can anyone help with a lookup please
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 00:21 BST (UK) »
You may also be interested to know the father, Robert, did a stint in prison for assault before he married:

Irish Prison Registers:
WICKLOW GAOL, 1877
Page 369, No. 166
Name: Robert Boyd
Age: 19
Act under which Tried: M.S.
Crime of which Convicted: Assaulted Edward and Eliza Broderick at Kilruddery
Court where Tried, or by whom Committed: Phineas Riall, Esq., 7th July
Before whom and where Tried: Magistrates, 7th July, Bray
Verdict and Sentence: Ordered to be Imprisoned for two calendar months with hard labour
When discharged: 6th Sept. 1877
DESCRIPTION
Height: 5'8''
Eye Colour: Brown
Hair Colour: Sandy
Complexion: Fresh
Education: Can read and write
Religion: —
State of Family, Native Place, and Occupation: Single, Bray, Fisherman