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Mary Ann Edwards Worthern, Bromlow, Hope
« on: Monday 13 April 15 17:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

Here's one if you like a challenge. I am stumped. Having searched just about everything I cannot find out what happened to Mary Ann Edwards since being baptised Feb 5 1860 in the parish of Worthen Shropshire to getting married in Feb 1881 in Salford.

Information I am looking for:
1. DOB of Mary ann
2. 1861 census the family
3. 1871 census the family
4. Marriage details of edward edwards and mary ?


Information I have is:
1. Mary Ann - Baptism record 5 Feb 1860 - states baptism in Hope Shropshire. The actual original copy states abode is Bromlow in the parish of Worthen Shropshire.
2. Fathers - name on baptism record in 1860 and marriage cert. 1881 is Edward Edwards. His occupation in 1860 is shopkeeper. In 1881 the marriage cert states farmer and he is deceased by 10th Feb 1881.
3. Mother - name on baptism record is Mary
4. Possible Marriage of her parents - 1855 I found an Edward Edwards married to a Mary Ann Rowe in Ironbridge, Madeley, Salop, Shropshire - BUT they are both widows/widower - suggesting old and therefore not parents of Mary Ann?
5. Ruth Edwards - is a witness on marriage cert. but not sure if this is sister or cousin or friend. However 25 May 1856 she was baptised in the parish of Worthen, residing in Bromlow to parents of the same name edward and mary edwards a shopkeeper. So it suggests that she is the sister.
6. I understand that Worthern is close to the Welsh border.  So I found this additional information but don't know if it is Mary Ann and Ruth?

1871 England, Bromlow, Shropshire
Edward Gwilt b1843, Worthern - Farmer
Elizabeth Gwilt b1841, Worthern - Farmer's sister
Aaron Gwilt b1847, Worthern - Farmer's brother
Mary A Edward b1861, Worthern - Niece. If you look closely there is possibly an 's' at the end of Edward running into niece.

1871 Wales, Worthern, Montgomeryshire
Mary Edwards b1788, Kerry, Mont. - widow, housekeeper
John Edwards b1835, ?same - son, Lead miner
Ruth Edwards b1857, Worthern, Salop - granddaughter


So they seem to be in Shropshire in 1856 and 1860 but then go missing from the census in 1861 and 1871.

1861 Mary Ann would be a baby assuming she was born 1859/60 and Ruth 5

What happened to them? Where did they go?

Any help would be great.

C

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Re: NEW TOPIC - Mary Ann Edwards Worthern, Bromlow, Hope
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 April 15 23:31 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Unfortunately parts of the 1861 census for Worthen have not survived so it is looking likely that they are in the missing parts   :'(

Mo
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Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: NEW TOPIC - Mary Ann Edwards Worthern, Bromlow, Hope
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 08:42 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I think Ruth married a John Newhall on 28th April, 1885 at Altrincham:
Bank Street Wesleyan Methodist Altrincham
John Newhall, 23, Bachelor, Cab Driver, Altrincham, Father Joseph Newhall desceased Cab Driver
Ruth Edwards, 27, Spinster, Altrincham, Father Edward Edwards Farmer.

They can be found on the 1891 census in Altrincham with Ruth aged 29 born Bromblaw/Bromblow Shropshire.  She seems to be taking a few years off her age – I wonder why!
Not sure where they are in 1901 but they can be found separately on the 1911 (interesting note on Johns entry).  Ruth died in Dec. Qtr 1911 age 55.

Regards,
Mo
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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: NEW TOPIC - Mary Ann Edwards Worthern, Bromlow, Hope
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 10:41 BST (UK) »
I think I would be applying for this will:
Proved 30th December, 1863
The will of Edward Edwards late of Bromlow in the Parish of Worthen in the county of Salop Farmer deceased who died 20th June, 1862 at Bromlow aforesaid was proved at Shrewsbury by the oath of John Gwilt of Bromlow aforesaid one of the Executors.  Effects under £100.

Edward Edwards of Bromlow aged 48 was buried at Worthen on the 24th June, 1862.  There is also a burial for a Mary  of Bromlow aged 45 on 4th January, 1865.

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Mo
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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)


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Re: Mary Ann Edwards Worthern, Bromlow, Hope
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 12:15 BST (UK) »
Back again ::)

I think this is the family in the 1851 census
HO107/2498 folio 359 page 19

Bromlow
Edward Edward(s)?, Head, Mar, 37, Grocer
Mary, Wife, 29
Jane, Daur, 3
Price, Son, 2?
Hannah, Daur, 4
All born Salop Worthen

Mo

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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Mary Ann Edwards Worthern, Bromlow, Hope
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 April 15 19:17 BST (UK) »
Mo, Hi

This information is outstanding - what excellent research.  Thank you.  I will follow up on each of these and let you know how I get on.  I can't wait.  I'd spent hours searching to no avail.  This has cheered me up no end.

Appreciative...
Caroline

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Re: Mary Ann Edwards Worthern, Bromlow, Hope
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 April 15 18:47 BST (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AEdward~%20%2Bsurname%3AEdwards~%20%2Bbirth_place%3AShropshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1805-1830~&offset=40

Possible baptism.

Edward Edwards
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:   28 February 1813   ALBERBURY, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND   
father:   Edward Edwards
mother:   Mary


http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Alberbury.html

http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Worthen.html

Lots of Edwards in Alberbury, Trewern, Worthen and Westbury. Possible connections.
Sorry, I could no find this marriage.

Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock