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James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« on: Thursday 16 April 15 21:38 BST (UK) »
I am looking for clarification/confirmation on the information I have with James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane. I originally found them in the Scotland census records & Eliza was age 32 & born about 1858/9 in Antrim.

 I have her maiden name as McCrudden. I also have their marriage as Nov. 9, 1877 in Randlstown 2nd Presbyterian church. This has Eliza's father listed as Samuel. One glitch here is that it states she was over 21 at the time of her marriage. Her birth year would then have had to be at least 1856 and not 1858 as on the Scotland census. They are both living in Ballydunmaul.

I have done a search here and found an Elizabeth McCrudden also from Randalstown with father named Samuel who was born in 1867. The poster (Floppy Davis) has that Elizabeth McCrudden attached to her Thomas Davidson family.

I am not sure what to think now. Is there more than one Samuel McCrudden in Randalstown with a daughter Elizabeth Jane? I'm looking for the one with a daughter born in 1856 or 1858.

Thanks for any help you can give with Eliza's parents.

Donna



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Re: James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 April 15 21:45 BST (UK) »
Hmm. After looking at the posts from Floppy Davis, I see (her) Samuel McCrudden & Esther Lee were married in 1869.

I am thinking that this may be MY Eliza Jane's brother & their father was also a Samuel McCrudden! Now that would make sense!

Hoping to confirm this idea! Hoping to then find Eliza's mother's name as well.   ;)

Donna

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Re: James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 April 15 09:37 BST (UK) »
Samuel McCrudden, son of James, married Ester Lee in 1867 according to extracted marriage record-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG84-BXK

Children-
Elizabeth (1867) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F59M-WD7
James (1869) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPY1-H8G
Mary Jane (1871) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPYP-YRV
Sarah Anne (1873) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBL-H4N
Esther Matilda (1875) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5YP-CFX
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Re: James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 April 15 09:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   On 17 Jan 1851 there was a marriage of a Samuel McCrudden to Susan Magregor(or McGregor) in Randlestown Second Presbyterian Church. The fathers' names were Mathew McCrudden and John McGregor.

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Re: James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 April 15 10:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the replies. I think we can eliminate the Samuel McCrudden & Ester Lee family now. I thought he could have been a brother but it is not the case.

The Samuel McCrudden & Susan Magregor/McGregor looks very promising. A marriage in 1851 would definitely put them in the category for having a child in 1856-59 (Eliza's varying birth year span).

I had originally posted here on the Scotland board as that is where the Aitken/Aicken family moved to. A kind lady is going to look up Eliza's death information for me. She said it should have her parents names listed on it. I will (hopefully) get her exact date of birth as well.

We should be able to inch forward after that information is received.   :)

Donna

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Re: James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 April 15 11:49 BST (UK) »
I have found information from James & Eliza's death records the names of their parents!!

Death in 1911- Eliza Jane McRudden: Father- Samuel McRudden, agricultural labourer, deceased
                                                       Mother- Susan Montgomery, deceased

Death in 1947- James Aitken: Father- William Aitken, deceased
                                            Mother- Catherine McNicol, deceased


Now that we have the correct names, I am hoping to find more information.  :)

Thanks!

Donna
 

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Re: James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 December 17 12:45 GMT (UK) »
For anyone following this post-

I have found through DNA matches that the Samuel McCrudden Jr. family is a match to the Eliza McCrudden family. As they both have the same name listed as a father I will go out on a limb & say it's highly likely that they are indeed siblings.

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Re: James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 December 17 18:47 GMT (UK) »
When you consider the address, father's details and the names of the two witnesses in the following Shaw marriage of 1876, this looks like a potential sibling of Eliza Jane:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1876/11165/8090414.pdf


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Re: James Aitken & wife Eliza Jane McCrudden from Artrim. Need help please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 December 17 12:46 GMT (UK) »
Wow! Yes! This is a match!

Thank you so much!