Author Topic: PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk  (Read 2747 times)

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PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk
« on: Saturday 18 April 15 16:40 BST (UK) »
My Grandad Cecil Walter Pipe married Nancy Isobel Self.  They both lived and died in Brundish Suffolk.  Nancy had
a sister May and at least one half sister.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 April 15 16:52 BST (UK) »
Marriage:
March qtr 1941
Blyth (Suffolk) district     vol 4a, page 3225

Pipe, Cecil W G
Self, Nancy I



Birth:
March qtr 1920
Hartismere district     vol 4a, page 2352

Pipe, Cecil W G      Mother's maiden name: Pipe



Probably best to purchase the Marriage Certificate, as it will mention father's names?
Cost will be £9.25 from GRO.
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Re: PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 April 15 00:27 BST (UK) »
From freebmd

Births March qtr 1919 

Nancie I Self mothers maiden name Pearce    Blything    4a   139 (born 30.1.1919 died 1979)

Marriages September qtr 1912 
Walter Self/Harriett Pearce    Blything    4a   2347

Mothers maiden name Pearce on both the following births

June qtr 1915 
May A Self      Blything    4a   2044    

Births December 1920 
Henry J Self Blything    4a   1955
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Re: PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 April 15 00:33 BST (UK) »
Deaths March qtr 1922 
Walter Self aged    43    Blything    4a   1591
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Re: PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 April 15 00:43 BST (UK) »
Previous marriage for Walter

Marriages March qtr 1904
    
Walter Self/Ellen Sarah Nobbs  Hartismere    4a   1037   

Deaths March qtr 1911

Ellen S Self aged    27    Blything    4a   664
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Re: PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 April 15 10:12 BST (UK) »
Hello Carol
Thank you for all the info.  Is there any mention of another daughter from Walter's first marriage?  His wife died so young.  There was a half sister who had an illegitimate  baby and spent the remainder of her life in St Audry' s of Melton Suffolk.  I forgot about Henry.  I met him at a family wedding when I was 6!

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Re: PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 April 15 12:23 BST (UK) »
Hi

Sorry - as the marriage was 1904, you would have to look up Walter on the 1911 census to get details of any children at that time.  Because of copyright issues, we are not allowed to post details from the 1911 census.

To help in any search below - the 1901 shows Walter as a 22yr old born Peasenhall Suffolk.  he was in lodgings and his occupation was groom & gardener  RG13 Piece: 1793 Folio 13 Page 17


You can probably get the info for free by using my instructions below - just use Walter as your search criteria


USING THE FREE 1911 INDEX TO DETERMINE THE CORRECT HOUSEHOLD

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Once you find a possible match - make a note of the county and district in which the person was living

Return to the index and in PERSONAL DETAILS - just put the surname of the family - nothing else

In LOCATION - Select the county and below it - type in the district

In OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD - show the full name of the person you have found on the index

Click SEARCH

The 1911 census is strictly pay per view so you will have to buy credits to view the full entry - the above instructions will only help to possibly show others of the same surname in the same household

You can check  birthplaces for free using GRU

http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/search.page/index/census_1911
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Re: PIPE, SELF family of Brundish Suffolk
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 April 15 20:30 BST (UK) »
There is a tree on a*ry that lists 4 children of the first marriage....

Frederick b. 1904
Thomas b. 1906
Gladys b. 1906
Jessie b. 1910

There is a WW1 Military Pension file on the same website that has the marriage particulars for Walter to Harriet Pearce 17 Sep 1912 and lists 3 children initially....

Frederick Walter George b. 27 Mar 1904
Gladys Elizabeth b. 01 Oct 1907
Jessie Ellen b. 23 Aug 1910 ......all b. Halesworth

May Annie b. 03 May 1915 is added on a subsequent page.

Sadly, there is a death for a Thomas E Self age 5 in Jun qtr 1911 that could be the Thomas listed in the tree. If he was Walter's son and was still alive at the time of the 1911 census, you should find him in that record.

I have not found a record of any of the siblings coming to Canada at this point, to answer the query on the Canada Board.

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