Kelly Michael

[jim burke]

Hi I am looking for information on the following O'Kelly family John born 1908, Mary a born 1910, James, born 1913, Patrick C born 1917, and Thomas B, born 1920 Waterford, this family first emigrated to England and then to America parents Patrick m O Kelly & Catherine O'Donnell. JB

[healyjfch]

Have a look for the family on both the 1901 & 1911 census
National archives census.  It's Free

There will be lots of Kellys in any county

Familysearch.org is also free

Civil registration began in 1864, so you should be able to find marriage and births.

[aghadowey]

The 1901 and 1911 census are here (free)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

You can also check for civil registrations here-
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

[myluck!]

There is a marriage in Trinity Without, Waterford on Sept 05 1905
of Patrick W O’KELLY of Ferns, Co. Wexford; (F) Michael; (M) Mary
and Catherine O’DONNELL of Tallow, Co. Waterford (F) Michael; (M) Mary;
sponsors Nicholas COLLINS and Nora O’DONNELL

In Waterford there are two birth records to these names as parents
Jun 10 1908 John of Shean, Ballyduff, Co. Waterford
Feb 10 1910 Mary Gabriel of Ballyduff Upper, Co. Waterford

On all records show Patrick as a Policeman/RIC
RIC records could provide further information

Which leads me to think that this is the
1911 census for Kate O’Kelly and her family, excluding John
Kate states she was born in Co. Tipperary – Tallow is on the border

This gives an earlier child that you have not referred to of Michael Vincent b. Co. Cork
possible civil record CORK 1907 Q1 V5 P112 (it is not freely on line)

If this is not you, it may be of interest!

The reference to Kate (Catherine) O'DONNELL being a teacher which could imply
this is her on the 1901 census boarding in 1 in Glencairn (Castlerichard, Waterford)

[jim burke]

I thank you for your help I have all this family but would like to Know is there any cousins around today Patrick Michael O'Kelly came from Mitchelstown Co Cork, and Catherine O'Donnell came from the Cahir area in Co Tipperary their children (5) some stayed in England (2) Mary A & Patrick, James one to Canada, Michael, to America, and Thomas B, to South Africa

[myluck!]

Rootschat is mainly for ancestry rather than family finding although the two are interlinked

Your search is obviously for their extended family and decendents
Hopefully someone will see what's here already and contact

You could also look up the siblings of Patrick M and Catherine
From their marriage you have father's full name and mothers first name.

[myluck!]

The following may help but is unproven:

On the O'DONNELL side

The witnesses to Patrick and Catherine’s marriage were Nicholas COLLINS and Nora O’DONNELL

Possibility of 1901 census for Nora and her parents
If the information above is correct, this is the same couple on 1911 census
showing they had seven children of which only two were still living
implying Nora and Catherine if they were sisters, which is the presumption I am making here

Nicholas COLLINS was the name of an RIC Constable in Waterford in 1905
(from court session records)
He was born in Tipperary and enlisted in 1895

The 1911 census lists a family of Nicholas & Nora Collins and young son Jeremiah
There is a marriage of Nicholas COLLINS and Nora O’DONNELL  on April 30th 1907 in Lismore, Co. Waterford
Civil Reference LISMORE 1907 Q2 V4 P337
Nicholas was possibly born Apr 16 1877 to Jeremiah COLLINS and Mary LACY;
this would tie with the eldest child being named after his paternal grand father
Jeremiah Francis COLLINS was born on Aug 22 1908 KILMACTHOMAS Q4 V4 p526
Mary COLLINS was born on Jul 05 1911 KILMACTHOMAS Q3 V4 P533

There is a possible marriage in Cork for Jeremiah Francis COLLINS in 1942 CORK Q3 V5 P150
There are children born in Cork after that date
with a match to one of the four listed possible spouses on the record
with names that seem to be family names – however I cannot list here as they may still be living.

There is a death in the UK in Richmond upon Thames, Surrey, October 1990
DoB 22 August 1908 aged 82 of Jeremiah Francis COLLINS

Again if proven correct, Jeremiah and Mary would be your KELLY family’s first cousins
and some may be UK based rather than Ireland based

Just also to note that the marriage in 1905 of Patrick O'KELLY states he was from Ferns, Co. Wexford not Mitchelstown, Co. Cork as you have mentioned

[jim burke]

Thanks Myluck, I am looking for this family for a lady from Canada, who is coming over next month to seek out some cousins. She has some in Kent England that she knows about and yes the O'Donnell's came from Knockgraffon Co Tipperary, and I saw that Michael Patrick Kelly has down his parents as from Ferns Wexford, on his marriage cert but he was born in Co Cork, their marriage did take place in Tallow but entered in the Ballybricken books 1905? and also there is no state record of this marriage Thanks again Jim