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The Holden Smithy, Saddleworth - What is it?
« on: Sunday 26 April 15 23:46 BST (UK) »
Is the Holden Smithy a small hamlet?

I have an ancestor, Henry Winterbottom, whose children were born there between 1822 and 1836. There is a listed building called the Holden Smithy at 23 Spurn Lane in Diggle so I have been assuming that this is where the family lived.

However, I have seen several parish records of people living at the Holden Smithy at the same time Henry was living there. Henry was a weaver and so were the others.

Hope someone can explain the confusion.

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Re: The Holden Smithy, Saddleworth - What is it?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 April 15 13:06 BST (UK) »
As your other thread Woolroad Saddleworth
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in this map link 1894

Above at 1 o'clock to Woolroad is Marslands

 by the left margin in the map in link is New Delph

OK draw line in your mind  straight across from New Delph till your are above Marsland on the map and you will find Holden Smithy

http://maps.nls.uk/view/100949105



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Re: The Holden Smithy, Saddleworth - What is it?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 April 15 13:28 BST (UK) »
Hello Dobfarm

Thank you for all of your help. You have very good eyesight. Does the Holden Smithy look like a little hamlet to you? Maybe it was like Harrop Green and was a small community of Woolen Weavers?

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Re: The Holden Smithy, Saddleworth - What is it?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 April 15 15:19 BST (UK) »
Holden Smithy was/is part of Weakey hamlet in 19 century Newspapers (search engine ) refered to in legal cases as in Weakey. Hence how I  found it.

Still there

Spurn lane

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.563996,-2.002748,3a,75y,195.49h,71.47t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6uo7bwI7IS69KiGLh-ggBg!2e0
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Re: The Holden Smithy, Saddleworth - What is it?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 April 15 01:06 BST (UK) »
Hello Dobfarm

Thank you very much. That has been very helpful. I think I can now assume that it is the name of the house at Weakey. Yes it is still there. It was heritage listed in the 1980's. But there does seem to be 2 houses. I think one is 23 Spurn Lane and the other is 25.

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Re: The Holden Smithy, Saddleworth - What is it?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 January 17 15:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi, the Holden Smithy is a house in Diggle, Saddleworth. I live at the house and have some records if you would like me to take a look for you?

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 January 17 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi JenHo,

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Re: The Holden Smithy, Saddleworth - What is it?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 February 18 22:00 GMT (UK) »
I'm also researching The Holden Smithy, so this is extremely helpful!  In particular, I am looking at John Holden, born in 1740, who lived in the Holden Smithy possibly as a child, but most definitely as an adult. He had 12 children with his wife, Mary Byrom Holden.  Thank you!

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Re: The Holden Smithy, Saddleworth - What is it?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 December 18 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi
We have recently purchased 21 Spurn Lane, Diggle - and this was the old barn for Holden Smithy. We are trying to find out more about the smithy - which was a large collection of proerties - and these were at one time used as weavers houses. The barn was converted in the 1960s and prior to that was a textiles storage place - before that we no nothing! If anyone does have info about the smithy that links to the barn - which formed the entrance to the smithy where the horses came through - we would be delighted to hear from you! Thanks Jo