Interpretation of Medal Cards/Rolls

[hunkyhywel]

I have a medal card and roll with some abbreviations I'd like to understand, can anyone help?

The card is for the Royal Fusiliers.
Under "Operations" It says, "LGS 22.5.17 Vol 30086 Page 5027".
In the blank section on the right is says "MID"

The roll is for the Durham Light Infantry.
Under the "Record of disposal of decorations" column is says "NW/6/5816"
Under the Remarks section is says, "(illegible) IV 3234/W 24.10.21" and "EMBLEMS IV 737/E 28.7.20"

What do the bits in bold mean?
I can post a picture of the card too if it's easier?

Thanks,
Hywel

[mmm45]

LGS .....London gazette supplement
MID is mention in dispatches....which in turn is denoted by emblems on medal index card...ie he would have an oak leaf on Victory medal ribbon.
IV is army talk... ISsue VOucher .....receipt basically....with date they were issued.

Hope this helps

Ady

[hunkyhywel]

Thanks Ady, that's a real help!

What is the significance that he was referred to in the gazette?

So MID and Emblem means that he had an oak leaf on his Victory medal? What does the oak leaf denote?

Do you know what all the numbers and letters mean in the medal roll?

One of the reasons I'm eager to find out all this is because family say something about an MC. Is it possible that there are more medal records for this individual? Is there an exhaustive list of recipients somewhere?

[mmm45]

The Oak leaf signifies Mention In Dispatches which means he was mentioned in dispatches sent back to war office from France
It is a gallantry award or in recognition of good deed in lieu of a medal.
If he had a Military Cross most are also in the London
Gazette with citation
It is searchable but can be difficult.

Ady

[hunkyhywel]

The military cross was only for officers, can an honourary rank still be eligible?
This person is recorded in the Manchester regiment, the royal fusiliers and the Durham light infantry. I have records of his transferrence between the former two but no records of him in the DLI other than the medal roll. Any way of finding out the battalion?

[mmm45]

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1103056

His service record is held at Kew think you will have to visit or ask for quote to be copied as they aren't downloadable yet.

Ady

[km1971]

The officer records in Kew are almost always worth getting, especially if he was an ex ranker. My GFs contains two copies of his service record as an Other Rank, a copy of his baptism and details of his schooling - all part of his application for a commission.

These files were being culled by civil servants before WW2 so you are lucky if 'yours' survives. My GFs is over 100 pages, but that is very rare.

The NW reference is an internal reference that no one knows the meaning of. Officers had to apply for their medals which is why you have the IV reference for when it was dispatched.

Ken

[hunkyhywel]

Thanks guys.
I was wondering why there were two rows completed in the medal roll? Is one for the victory medal and the other for the oak leaves?