Blakeland Street, Small Heath

[Heather McWilliam Rawles]

Hi Trees. Yes that's the one. I have a copy of the marriage certificate. Edward is the brother of my great great grandmother, Betsy FULLARD. Their parents are John FULLARD and Hannah BAINES. Groom and both fathers listed as Metal Dealers on the certificate.
I found a couple in the 1911 census that may be them, sadly in the workhouse at the age of 61. My mom remembers FLAVELLS from her childhood, but not exact names, she pronounced it 'Flayvell'.

[Trees]

How sure are you that John Fullard was married to Hannah Baines? there was a John Fullwood marrying a Hannah HILL  23 Mar 1823 in Sedgley she was baptised 05 Jul 1807 daughter of Daniel and Mary Hill so the age still fits with the censuses Hannah Hill was born in Coseley about 2 miles from Ruiton

[Heather McWilliam Rawles]

Pretty sure, and my mother knows the name. There are a couple of John FULLARDS per generation, and Hannahs it gets quite confusing, but and I have Betsy's birth certificate with her mother's maiden name as BAINES, and her marriage certificate but that just says Hannah FULLARD.  My mom has a sampler made by Betsy, with her birthday on so we know that we have an accurate date.

[Trees]

Great so I must look for a BAINES Have to go now back later

[Heather McWilliam Rawles]

I hit a wall with BAINES, I cannot find anything. Just gone back and checked a few things, Betsy and her husband William lived with Hannah, census puts Hannah at 62 in 1871, so that fits with birth date of 1808, 1807 would have been too early. It gives me a headache, and records can get a bit vague.

[Trees]

Well I too have drawn a blank I have searched for Baines Banes Baynes and the singular and even Caines etc as on one census the word Carter looks like Barter, GRO index clearly gives mother's maiden name as BAINES for EDWARD born 28 NOV 1848 ( from his baptism shown on Free REG)
Can any one else help us find HANNAH baines born about 1809 Staffordshire please?