Eliza Howard bn 1815 St. Martins Colchester

[Liverbird1]

I'm trying to trace her parents.


Baptism 11 Jun 1815 Colchester, Essex, England, stating parents as Robert & Ann.  I dont have any sibling as yet.

Married 1834 Ardleigh to William Cook then to William Appleby.

How can I trace her parents?

Thanks

[t mo]

hi
is the bpt record you,ve found this one for an eliza howard born 24 april 1815 and bpt at lion walk independent meeting house Colchester 11 june 1815 ? .
also one of the witnesses on the marriage for the  eliza at ardleigh marriage is a  susanna howard possibly a sister of eliza .
have you definite proof the bpt and marriage are for the same eliza howard your looking for .
so far can,t find marriage for Robert and ann .
yours
trevor

[suffolk*sue]

It probably is the right one as Robert and Ann also had a daughter Caroline born 1822. There is a Caroline Howard buried in Ardleigh in 1830 aged 8yrs.
A Robert Howard born c1788 buried 1837.

Looks like Ann married again in Ardleigh.
21st February, 1846
George  Howard, single, no father listed
Ann Howard, widow, father John Smith
both of the parish
witnesses
John Smith
John Whent

In the 1851 census George and Ann are next door to the Applebys.

George Howard buried 1st April, 1860 aged 49yrs.

[suffolk*sue]

The 1861 census gives Anns birthplace as St. James, Colchester, so found the following baptism at said church.

Ann Smith
March 18th, 1792
to John and Hannah.

In Ardleigh
4th January, 1787
John Smith, widower
Hannah Godbowl, single
both of the parish
witnesses
George
Johnson Harris

[Liverbird1]

hi
is the bpt record you,ve found this one for an eliza howard born 24 april 1815 and bpt at lion walk independent meeting house Colchester 11 june 1815 ? .
also one of the witnesses on the marriage for the  eliza at ardleigh marriage is a  susanna howard possibly a sister of eliza .
have you definite proof the bpt and marriage are for the same eliza howard your looking for .
so far can,t find marriage for Robert and ann .
yours
trevor

Yes that's the baptism record I have.

I have noticed Susanna too.

Yes, both baptism and marriage are of the same Eliza

Thanks

[Liverbird1]

It probably is the right one as Robert and Ann also had a daughter Caroline born 1822. There is a Caroline Howard buried in Ardleigh in 1830 aged 8yrs.
A Robert Howard born c1788 buried 1837.

Looks like Ann married again in Ardleigh.
21st February, 1846
George  Howard, single, no father listed
Ann Howard, widow, father John Smith
both of the parish
witnesses
John Smith
John Whent

In the 1851 census George and Ann are next door to the Applebys.

George Howard buried 1st April, 1860 aged 49yrs.

So Ann marries Robert Howard and then a George Howard?  At least she kept her surname!

Thank you ever so much; how on earth do you find these things so easy; I have been looking for 18 months since I found Eliza's info.

[Liverbird1]

With the above info (thank you) I have just found someone on Ancestry; that has a Robert & Ann Smith on their tree; including Susanna the witness on Eliza's marriage certificate.  But they are omitting Eliza :-/

So I have asked them for some guidance too

[Liverbird1]

I have found the baptism for Caroline - same place as Eliza was baptised

[trish1120]

ROBERT/ANN Howard Baptised St Mary The Virgin, Ardleigh;
MARY ANN 14 Sept 1828
RACHEL 27 June 1830
WILLIAM 14 Oct 1832, Buried 4 April 1847 age 14
CAROLINE 14 Dec 1834


Marriages same Church
MATILDA Howard/Henry EVERITT, 3 Feb 1844 (Father ROBERT Howard)
They Witness Eliza Cooks Marriage 1849**
CAROLINE Howard/John SMITH, 7 Dec 1850, Father ROBERT Howard
MARY ANN Howard/Thomas NORFOLK, 9 April 1848, Father ROBT Howard
RACHEL Howard/Joseph SMITH, 9 Oct 1847, no Father named
There are a few extra also on FreeREG.

So this is the 1841 in Ardleigh;
Anne Howard    50
Robert Howard    25
Thomas Howard    15
Matilda Howard    15
Mary Howard    12
Rachell Howard    11
William Howard    8
Caroline Howard    6

Trish