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Pinnocks family of Alverstoke, Hampshire
« on: Thursday 14 May 15 18:36 BST (UK) »
My 2G grandfather was named John, James or Charles Pinnix/Pinnox/Pinnocks.  He married my 2G grandmother, Jane Oakes, in Catholic Chapel, Gosport, in 1861.  They had 2 children before he died (no death record found for him).  Jane remarried (in total she outlived 4 husbands) in Alverstoke in 1867.
John, James and Charles were the various names that either he or someone else gave for him in various census, birth and marriage records -

1860 marriage to Jane Oakes - John Pinnix, 25, name likely to have been given by John himself, illiterate.  Father Thomas Pinnix, Labourer
1861 census - James Pinnicks, 26, born Portsmouth, Hampshire, name and birth place could have been given by either James or Jane, neither of them literate
1863 birth of daughter Mary Jane Pinnix - James Pinnix, name given by Jane, illiterate
1865 birth of son Charles Pinnocks (Haines) - Charles Pinnocks, name given by Jane, illiterate

I am trying to trace a death record for John/James/Charles, also a record for his birth and census records for 1841 and 1851.  I have full access to census records, but wondering if any one can pass a new eye over this for me.

One possibility I have come up with is the following family from Hambledon, which doesn't fit with his stated birth place of Portsmouth.  If this is the correct family, I can find a baptism for James on 30 Jan 1831, Hambledon, parents Thomas Pinnocks and Jane Evans or Eams.

1841
Thomas Pinnocks, M, 50, Ag Labor, Y
Jane Pinnocks, F, 40, Y
Harriett Pinnocks, F, 25, Y
Ann Pinnocks, F, 20, Y
Eliza Pinnocks, F, 15, Y
Thomas Pinnocks, M, 13, Y
James Pinnocks, M, 11, Y
David Pinnocks, M, 5, Y
Address Denmead Tithing, Hambledon
HO107/387/10 Folio 8 p10

James Hansell and Ann Pinnocks
Marriage: 14 Jul 1844
Alverstoke, Hampshire, England

1851
James Ansell, Head, Mar, M, 30, Day Labourer, Sussex, Harting
Ann Ansell, Wife, Mar, F, 28, Day Labourer, Sussex, Tisted
Ann Ansell, Daur, F, 7, Hants, Brockhurst
Ellen Ansell, Daur, F, 2, Hants, -
James Pinnocks, Brother in law, M, 19, Day Labourer, Hants, -
Address Brockhurst, Alverstoke
HO 107/1660 Folio 176 p16

Hoping someone can help me with this,
Margaret   :-\
STEER, mainly Surrey, Kent; PINNOCKS/HAINES, Gosport, Hants; BARKER, mainly Broadwater, Sussex; Gosport, Hampshire; LAVERSUCH, Micheldever, Hampshire; WESTALL, London, Reading, Berks; HYDE, Croydon, Surrey; BRIGDEN, Hadlow, Kent and London; TUTHILL/STEPHENS, London
WILKINSON, Leeds, Yorkshire and Liverpool; WILLIAMSON, Liverpool; BEARE, Yeovil, Somerset; ALLEN, Kent and London; GORST, Liverpool; HOYLE, mainly Leeds, Yorkshire

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Re: Pinnocks family of Alverstoke, Hampshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 May 15 19:40 BST (UK) »
Have you considered this family in Fareham - image is too faint on my computer:

1841 (from ancestry)
Thomas Pinniket      40  labourer   all local born
Eberon Pinniket      40
Carroline Pinniket      13
Charles Pinniket      11
Thomas Pinniket      8
William Pinniket      6
James Pinniket      4
Ann Pinniket        1
HO107   Piece : 389     Book : 3       Folio : 6      Page : 6

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Re: Pinnocks family of Alverstoke, Hampshire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 May 15 19:57 BST (UK) »
Another poor image on my computer,  address could be Bridge Road (but probably not)
living in Fareham in 1851
Rebecca Fennlkil     50  widow  laundress  Fareham  Head
James Fennlkil   16    son
Ann Fennlkil           10   daughter
John Roff           ()5      Father widower  Parish relief formerly labourer  Andover Hampshire
Jeanett White   19  servant
James Hardney   24   lodger

Class    HO107      Piece   1661    Folio   154       Page   37

Looking at the 1841 census posted, that 'Eberon' that ancestry suggested could be Rebecca.

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Re: Pinnocks family of Alverstoke, Hampshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 May 15 20:02 BST (UK) »
You had me excited there, chempat!

Unfortunately, further research shows this is probably Thomas and Rebecca Pennycoat//Pennycott and family (Fareham baptisms - Caroline 1827, Charles 1830, Thomas 1832, William 1835, James 1837, Ann 1840).

Such a shame, but thanks a lot for looking for me.
Margaret
STEER, mainly Surrey, Kent; PINNOCKS/HAINES, Gosport, Hants; BARKER, mainly Broadwater, Sussex; Gosport, Hampshire; LAVERSUCH, Micheldever, Hampshire; WESTALL, London, Reading, Berks; HYDE, Croydon, Surrey; BRIGDEN, Hadlow, Kent and London; TUTHILL/STEPHENS, London
WILKINSON, Leeds, Yorkshire and Liverpool; WILLIAMSON, Liverpool; BEARE, Yeovil, Somerset; ALLEN, Kent and London; GORST, Liverpool; HOYLE, mainly Leeds, Yorkshire

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Re: Pinnocks family of Alverstoke, Hampshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 May 15 21:31 BST (UK) »
OK.

Will have another look.