Census and birth conundrum for North Dalton and Lyon family

[Peter Cockerill]

Dear Friends can you help with the following conundrum please?

In the 1851 census there aree two people called Ann Lyon, both born 1823 at North Dalton and both aged 27 years. But Ancestry shows only one baptism in North Dalton for an Ann Lyon which is on 22.04.1823 a daughter of William Lyon (Labourer) and Elizabeth Lyon.

The first Ann born North Dalton is shown in the 1851 census as living in North Frodingham an unmarried servant at the Gate Inn. Her age is given as 25 years but in fact she was born 20.04.1823 per her gravestone and so was actually 27 yrs. Her father is shown as William Lyon a labourer on her marriage cert. She married Thomas Cockerill in 1859.

The second Ann born North Dalton is shown as daughter of William Lyon (Pauper, Labourer) and Elizabeth Lyon at North Dalton. She is shown as unmarried, 27yrs, a visitor (servant).

North Dalton is 13 miles from North Frodingam.

Can anyone help untangle the conundrum of the two Ann's please? Is there a second record of a baptism at North Dalton perhaps or is this just a recording error by the Lyon family/ies.

Many thanks

Many thanks.
Peter

[Milliepede]

Can you find them both in 1841?

[Peter Cockerill]

Thank you for this kind prompt.

I have tried but with partial success. The first Ann is shown in North Frodingham in 1841 aged 18 years and a servant. This fits with the baptism and gravestone dates. In later censuses Ann's age is also shown correctly but not in the 1851 (She died April 1915).

I have a growing conviction that N. Frodingham Ann was probably visiting her parents in North Dalton on the day of the census in 1851. Meanwhile her employer back at N.Frodingham filled in the census without her being there perhaps expecting her to return that night. This would explain the error with her age on the N. Frodingham census.

Thank you for your kind help.
Peter

[shirl100]

Thank you for this kind prompt.

I have tried but with partial success. The first Ann is shown in North Frodingham in 1841 aged 18 years and a servant. This fits with the baptism and gravestone dates. In later censuses Ann's age is also shown correctly but not in the 1851 (She died April 1915).

I have a growing conviction that N. Frodingham Ann was probably visiting her parents in North Dalton on the day of the census in 1851. Meanwhile her employer back at N.Frodingham filled in the census without her being there perhaps expecting her to return that night. This would explain the error with her age on the N. Frodingham census.

Thank you for your kind help.
Peter

That would make sense for her to be shown on both census records, I had a quick look at familysearch and there appears to be just one marriage in North Dalton for a William Lyon and an Elizabeth prior to 1823 - 28 Nov 1808, Elizabeth Johnson.

Shirl

[Peter Cockerill]

Many thanks Shirl for your help much appreciated.

Peter

[gogogadgetlegs]

Hi Peter,
Looked through Parish Records for North Dalton 1821-1833 and only found one Baptism for an Ann Lyon 22 April 1823 Parents William & Elizabeth so i guess this must be a mistake.
Tried to send you a PM but could not send an attachment,
gogogadgetlegs

[lizdb]

I would agree there is just one girl,  who lived in as a servant, but she happened to be visiting her parents on census night, so got enumerated twice.

[Peter Cockerill]

Many thanks Gogogadget... and Liz.

Is this a common occurrence do you know?

Peter

[lizdb]

It happens.