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Albert Ernest Ede
« on: Wednesday 20 May 15 23:57 BST (UK) »
Hi

I was wondering if somebody could help me. I have been trying to track the movements of my great-great-grandfather, Albert Ernest Ede. I am specifically concerned with the events that took place between 1877-1896. He had been living with his mother, Sarah (born Keeble) in Christchurch, New Zealand, however, she married a man by the name of James Upton in 1877 after the death of her first husband (John Ede) and soon their after moved to Australia between the years of 1881-1885. I know Albert married a woman in New Zealand in 1896, but what I want to know is, did Albert originally move to Australia with his mother and stepfather or did he stay in New Zealand? He was born in 1874 so he would have been too young to stay in New Zealand by himself.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Albert Ernest Ede
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 May 15 01:32 BST (UK) »
There is a Sarah UPTON arriving in Sydney from Wellington in 1883 with what might be her children, no ages are given except for the infant.

http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1883/08/010hau.htm

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Re: Albert Ernest Ede
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 May 15 02:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Debra

The names of the children match. Are there any census record after their arrival?

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 May 15 02:22 BST (UK) »
Sorry, we made a bonfire with our census records  :'(

They did keep the 1891 collector's books but they only name the head of the household and total number of people in the house.

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Re: Albert Ernest Ede
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 May 15 02:27 BST (UK) »
That’s a shame

Would it be possible to find out when Albert returned to New Zealand?

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 May 15 02:40 BST (UK) »
The only indexed departures from NSW are 1898-1911 and most of the passengers are just Mr., Mrs. etc.  Some incoming to NZ are on FamilySearch, I can see a few which might be of interest, though the lists are generally very sparse on details for travel between Aus and NZ.  Just remember that we were all 'British' back then, it doesn't mean they were born in Britain.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 May 15 02:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks Debra :)

you've been a big help

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Re: Albert Ernest Ede
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 May 15 03:11 BST (UK) »
Can you list all the information please from the marriage certificate 1896.

NZ BDM births
1875 / 14507 EDE Ada     parents Sally / John   (15 Sep 1875)

death
1875 / 1771 EDE John    45yr   (4 Feb 1875)

marriage
1877 / 1149 EDE Sally  m. UPTON James

births
1879 / 2347 UPTON James                     parents Sally / James
1880 / 6256 UPTON Arthur Alfred           parents Sally / James
1881 / 12727 UPTON Elizabeth Sarah      parents Sally / James

Star  11 July 1881
"...on the application of Sarah UPTON an order was made protecting her earnings against her husband James UPTON and giving her custody of her children"



marriage
1896 / 2814  EDE Albert Ernest       m.  Agnes DICKINSON

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Re: Albert Ernest Ede
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 May 15 05:52 BST (UK) »
Children Burtin & Ethel Annie with Agnes - but did he marry twice?

The one who died in 1913 had a son named Alick and wife Lily.

?2nd marriage:
1902/630
Lily Bloxham
Albert Ernest Ede

1902/12678
Ede Alexander Ernest Guy
[mother] Lilly
[father] Albert Ernest

Article about his death stated his mother died in an asylum and he had a brother in an asylum in Sydney.

From Papers Past - Auckland Star, Volume XLIV, Issue 305, 23 December 1913, Page 5

Very sad  :(