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Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« on: Thursday 21 May 15 04:14 BST (UK) »
   I have been asked by a relative in the UK to see what we can find out about 'Billy' Piggins who was born in Consett in 1910 and died in Mount Waverley on 6th September 1971.    Springvale Cemetery have confirmed that his ashes were collected on 9th Sept. 1971 by his wife Elizabeth Rebecca, but we cannot find any trace of a marriage to an Elizabeth either in England or Australia.  'Billy' had a son Melville from his first marriage, who died two years ago in Consett.
   Problem at the moment is that the Victorian Public Records Office Website doesn't appear to be working - keeps fouling up when one tries to register or search.    Unfortunately at my age I can no longer get into the City, otherwise would go to the Office myself.
    I wonder therefore whether anyone might have any idea how to find out whether 'Billy' and Elizabeth ever did get married?   We know that he arrived by the Otranto in 1950 and that both him and Elizabeth appear in electoral rolls at the same address from about 1954 onwards.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 May 15 04:29 BST (UK) »
Here is the indexation of the death in Vic

PIGGINS  Robert William
Father George Augus
Mother Alice Grace  BENNETT
Death Place HEID
Age 61
Year 1972
Reg Number 12743

To learn more you would need to purchase the certificate. An uncertified image can be downloaded to your computer immediately upon payment of about  Aus. $22.00.  You will need the registration number which is given above on the index entry.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

This link shows what you may see on all Victorian certificates.  How complete and accurate the information is, depends on the knowledge of the informant.

http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Sue

 

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 May 15 04:33 BST (UK) »
Marriage Index only extends to 1942 on CD and the same online

The Historical index has entries relating to:
    births in Victoria from 1853 to 1912
    marriages in Victoria from 1853 to 1942
    deaths in Victoria from 1853 to 1988

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 May 15 04:34 BST (UK) »
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  Problem at the moment is that the Victorian Public Records Office Website doesn't appear to be working - keeps fouling up when one tries to register or search.

What are you searching for on that site?  Working for me.

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 May 15 04:37 BST (UK) »
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

PIGGINS Robert William    Mechanic    Mt Waverley    6 Sep 1971    732/356,VPRS 28/P5,unit 1322; VPRS 7591/P4

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 May 15 04:42 BST (UK) »
Malcom

I will P M you some information from the Electoral Roll of 1949 regarding a woman who may be the correct Elizabeth Rebecca.

We have no evidence at this stage she is deceased.

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 May 15 06:17 BST (UK) »
  Thank you so much Cando and Sue.   This adds a lot to what we had discovered beforehand.   Alex tells me that he had an operation on his thumb on Monday so is typing with one hand - or it may have been one of those little glitches that occur from time to time.    Anyway I'll pass all this back to him and he can have another go tonight.    I feel a bit sad thinking about the son Melville that can't ever have known about his father's new life in Melbourne.
   I even remember that short line of shops at 445 Hawthorn Road as I drove past every work day for about 11 years from 1976 to 1987 when I worked in South Caulfield.   The flats above those shops look so derelict on Google today.    My daughter Fiona worked with me at Hemisphere Travel for most of those years and today she is in The Glen, only a short distance from 28 Muir Road where Robert Piggins died.
   Thanks again,   Malcolm
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 May 15 06:33 BST (UK) »
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  Problem at the moment is that the Victorian Public Records Office Website doesn't appear to be working - keeps fouling up when one tries to register or search.
What are you searching for on that site?  Working for me.
Cando

    This is what Alex has told me:
"Thanks Malcolm,
I did all this at the week-end but the site kept timing-out and did not accept my registration; anyway it did not work. Not the most user friendly site I’ve yet seen!  I’ll try again after my armsling comes off, as I’m typing with one hand/finger until then.   Had a Operation on my right thumb on Monday which has slowed me down.
Alex."

    But I also had a try and the page went a bit funny, so I gave up at that point.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 May 15 15:51 BST (UK) »
His wife Elizabeth Rebecca PIGGINS remarried Maxwell Hansley RAWNSLEY & they moved to Tasmania. Elizabeth died in 2013 & Maxwell in 2011 at Launceston. They were cremated at Carr Villa & their ashes collected.

Death notice Elizabeth:

http://obituaries.themercury.com.au/notice/1650015

Cremations:

http://www.launceston.tas.gov.au/lcc/index.php?c=30&burial_record=52601
http://www.launceston.tas.gov.au/lcc/index.php?c=30&burial_record=52590

The Ryerson Index also lists a few notices for their deaths:
http://ryersonindex.net/search.php