Robert William Piggins of Mount Waverley Vic

[cando]

The informant for a death, the circumstances of which have been the subject of a inquest, is usually a member of the police force attending the inquest/enquiry, a magistrate or in this case the coroner himself.  I have never seen a family member noted as an informant.

Just my two bob's worth

Cando

[sparrett]

The informant for a death, the circumstances of which have been the subject of a inquest, is usually a member of the police force attending the inquest/enquiry, a magistrate or in this case the coroner himself.  I have never seen a family member noted as an informant.

Just my two bob's worth

Cando

That's interesting.  I did not know that.
I suppose then someone gave the life details of the deceased so the official person could complete the form.

The reason I asked was that the informant seems to be quite specific about PIGGIN's age at the first marriage and in response to......

      Makes me wonder if he knew that his son Melville was born in the April/June quarter of 1936 - or did he just keep it secret from Elizabeth?

....it seems unlikely to me that information was withheld from Elizabeth.  What other details are offered re first marriage and do they agree entirely with your background  knowledge of PIGGINS Malcolm?

Sue
 ADDING- Was there a likely reason he would not know about the child?

[Malcolm33]

The reason I asked was that the informant seems to be quite specific about PIGGIN's age at the first marriage and in response to......

....it seems unlikely to me that information was withheld from Elizabeth.  What other details are offered re first marriage and do they agree entirely with your background  knowledge of PIGGINS Malcolm?
Sue

    Yes it looks right.   He was born in 1910 and married Chrissie Askew in the April/June quarter of 1931 in Consett.      Chrissie's aunt paid him off in the divorce settlement - not sure when that was, but he then left for Melbourne in 1950.    Malcolm

[Malcolm33]

From Alex:
Dear Malcolm,
 
I complained to the PROV who responded with a “password”.  I inserted this in the “ident” box and it worked.  Doh!
To my second applic for digi-copies of the two Probate docs, I got through and have received an acknowledgement at last.
 
Your kind friends have really come up trumps with Betty’s second marriage and death.  I am most grateful; please relay my thanks to them all. 

Alex

      But a new mystery emerges in the Ryerson Index
Found 1 notice.
Surname Given Names Notice Type Date Type Age Other Details Publication Published
PIGGINS Lillian Mary     see RAWNSLEY, Lillian Mary Daily Telegraph (Sydney) 22JUN2010

    Alex also found an Eileen with the same notation, but it doesn't come up for me, only as Daisy Eileen Rawnsley.


     

[sparrett]

A NSW marriage

1323/1940  RAWNSLEY Reginald
 PIGGINS Lillian  May
At REDFERN

She and Reginald were registered to vote in NSW in 1943 at 18 Brandon Ave Bankstown.
Reginald was a gas employee.

The Electoral Rolls show she remained in NSW

Lillian Mary RAWNSLEY's age at death is given on the Ryerson Index in 2010 as 80 years.

Daisy Eileen RAWNSLEY registered to vote in Tasmania in 1944.

She lived at Ocean Beach Hotel Scamander, Fingal .

Others who have access to the Tasmanian Indexes will be more helpful, but she may have been married to Cleve Henry Devlin RAWNSLEY.

Sue



 

[Malcolm33]

  This is really great Sue.    I have been searching all morning but didn't see that.    I did find a death notice in the Mercury for Eileen 'loved wife of Cleave' and then a birth notice in trove - Mercury announcing the birth of son Anthony on 8 Feb 1943 and Cleave was in the AIF.

   Lillian's birth date is shown in her death notice as 5th September 1929 - just not close enough to the Lilian Piggin who was registered in the Jan/March quarter of 1928 in South Shields - not far from Consett where Robert was born.

     I can only think now that Lillian and/or Eileen and Maxwell came to visit relative Robert in Melbourne and that would have been how Maxwell Rawnsley came to stay and then marry Elizabeth.

      Am attaching photo of Robert and his first wife on their marriage in 1931 (both deceased) so you can see the subject of this search.  Again lots of thanks.   Malcolm

[Malcolm33]

   Just realised.   Robert was in the Navy when he married.   I knew he was on a ship - HMS Witherington during the War but this makes me wonder if it was his absence at sea that broke the marriage up.

[sparrett]

Malcolm,
 Who is Maxwell?

A bit confusing

Sue

EDIT Just realised you are talking about Maxwell RAWNSLEY
I think

[sparrett]

It is a lovely picture.

I still wonder why you say this-

   Makes me wonder if he knew that his son Melville was born in the April/June quarter of 1936 -   

Sue