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Hart family - Sligo
« on: Sunday 24 May 15 21:40 BST (UK) »
1851 Census (Irish) - I have come across an extract request on the Find my Past site from a John Hart in August 1920. The extract shows the father as Michael Hart, mother as Bridget Hart (nee Morrison) and children Dennis, Patrick and Catheline. This last name may of course be spelt incorrectly and may be Kathleen or other similar sounding name.

My question is why would John Hart be making this request in 1920?

The John Hart I am aware of in my family tree was born in about 1860 in Curry Co Sligo and had moved across to England by 1890 in the Lancaster area (married 1891) and later to West Hartlepool before returning to Lancaster.

What I also would like to work out is whether this information is directly connected to my family.

Any help gratefully received.

Angela

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Re: Hart family - Sligo
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 May 15 21:45 BST (UK) »
He would have been applying for Old Age Pension and what you got was the check done on him to prove his age via 1851 Census.

The actual census was mostly destroyed so these Pensions are as such what was on the actual Census....
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 May 15 21:48 BST (UK) »
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/home.jsp  are the searches done on anyone applying for Pension plus all about Pension!!
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 May 15 21:50 BST (UK) »
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Re: Hart family - Sligo
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 May 15 22:00 BST (UK) »
Yes the 1851 extract is what  have seen. On the FindMyPast site I was able to download the actual document.

Is my understanding right that the pension was for those over 70?

The other point I am not clear on is why he would be using a c/o address in 1920, something else which may show that it s not the John Hart in my family but as there is a connection to the area there may be a reason.

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Re: Hart family - Sligo
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 May 15 22:07 BST (UK) »
All detailS about the Pension are on 1st link posted.. on thw site I posted you can download the actual document!

As to why he used that address... maybe he was a lodger, I don't know why!
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Re: Hart family - Sligo
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 May 15 00:14 BST (UK) »
If you look through a few pages of these Census Search Forms you will notice the contact address is often connected to a church, Health Board, Legal Professional, or a private individual and so on, it's simply a case of an elderly person getting help with their pension application. They maybe illiterate, have poor eyesight or may be daunted by legal forms.

A few examples
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/details.jsp?id=54582
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/details.jsp?id=54597
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/details.jsp?id=54620

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Re: Hart family - Sligo
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 May 15 07:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone for all the information and help.

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Re: Hart family - Sligo
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 July 15 18:06 BST (UK) »
HARTE Bridget (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Bridget (Ballynakill Cemetery Sooey County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Catherine (Ballynakill Cemetery Sooey County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Charles (Ballynakill Cemetery Sooey County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Edward of Coola (Ballynakill Cemetery Sooey County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Ellen (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE James (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Kate (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Martin (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Mary (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Michael (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Michael (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Patrick (Ballynakill Cemetery Sooey County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Patrick of Tawnaughy (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Patrick (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Tom (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
HARTE Winifred (Knockbrack Burial Ground Keash County Sligo Ireland)
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