Help Needed to find the Lampard family in 1891

[las camelias]

Can anyone help me find this family in 1891 please.  I'm going mad!  I have found them in 1901 and 1911.  Thank you.  LC

Lampard James Head m 64 Shepherd East Knoyle Wilts
Lampard Ellen Wife m 37 East Knoyle Wilts
Lampard James Son 5 Scholar East Knoyle Wilts
Lampard Ellen Dau 3 East Knoyle Wilts
Lampard John Son 4m East Knoyle Wilts

[las camelias]

Sorry, just to make it clear, the family I have listed is 1881.
LC

[willsy]

Going mad with you at the moment

[SWar]

Hi,

I can see a James Lampard farm labourer age looks like 70 something born East Knoyle.
He is shown as a widower - he is living alone.  Can't find a death for Ellen so wondered if she had left him and taken the children with her.

Sue

[las camelias]

Hi Sue,

Don't think that the same James Lampard.

My James Lampard snr must have died pre 1901 because wife Ellen (with children) is widowed on 1901 and 1911.

[CaroleW]

1901 shows another son - Gilbert aged 11 who should appear on the 1891.  Freebmd shows birthyear as 1889

[heywood]

There are two possible deaths in Mere registration district

James Lampard born abt 1823 died 1893

James Lampard born abt 1816 died 1898

[jan57]

What  was Ellens    maiden name ?     maybe they   are with   her relatives , and  have  been  transcribed with  her  former  name ? ,    I   can't see them  on Familysearch   either,  as well as Ancestry     

[CaroleW]

Freebmd shows her maiden name as Ford