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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 January 17 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tony
Just came across your post from Jun 2015 regarding the Rock/Rocks family and was wondering if you have come across a Peter and Elizabeth born Armagh

A branch of my family tree Margaret Kilpatrick b1868 Belfast married Felix Rock/Rocks 26oct1891 Johnstone Scotland,Felix was born 1867 Durham Eng.his parents were Peter and Elizabeth Rock/Rocks m/s Tonner info from marriage cert on S.P,they are listed on the 1871 Uk Census and the 1891 Scottish Census as born in Armagh
Elizabeth died 13may1894 Scotland ,parents Frank and Mary Ann m/s McRea info from death cert S.P
Peter died 28may1900 Scotland father John Rock no info on mother

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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 04 May 17 22:37 BST (UK) »

You talk about a Clady origin, so they could have originally come from Clady and moved to Milford for work as weavers and then moved into quarrying at the Rock Road area on the outskirts of Armagh city.
It would be more difficult to ascertain exactly which of the Clady Rocks families they came from but the recent uploading of baptismal records online might help. They are available here: http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0189

My grandad on my mother's side was Rocks who was born at his family home on Rock Road, Armagh. The house is still standing and my family live near it. They had a quarry next to the house which they ran.  His father was John, I think John's wife was called Evelyn (sp).  This is my first step in trying to trace my family and I have came across this.  My grandad was called Benny (Benjamin) and was born in 1914.

I think that John's family came from Clady / Granemore area as my grandmother was from Granemore and both sets of families were friends I believe.

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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 04 May 17 23:14 BST (UK) »
Paddy

The only John Rock on my tree was born in 1837 in Co. Armagh,
his father was Simon born 1796

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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #21 on: Friday 05 May 17 08:03 BST (UK) »
My grandad on my mother's side was Rocks who was born at his family home on Rock Road, Armagh. The house is still standing and my family live near it. They had a quarry next to the house which they ran.  His father was John, I think John's wife was called Evelyn (sp).  This is my first step in trying to trace my family and I have came across this.  My grandad was called Benny (Benjamin) and was born in 1914.

I think that John's family came from Clady / Granemore area as my grandmother was from Granemore and both sets of families were friends I believe.

Welcome to RootsChat.  The only candidate for Bernard's birth that I can readily see is this one, registered in Keady, he was named Bernard Aloysius and was born on 1 October 1914 in the townland of Granemore to parents John Rox (farmer) and Minnie Corr:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01397/1574415.pdf

However it looks like 'Corr' might have been 'Carr', for a Mary Carr of Granemore married John Rocks of Ballyheridan in Ballymacnab RC Church in 1912, her father was Michael Carr, a farmer, his was James Rocks, a labourer:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09926/5608522.pdf

On the face of it, that information would read across to these possibilities in the 1911 Ireland census, just to note for now:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Ballyaros/Ballyheridan/325163/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Armaghbrague/Granemore/321522/

Prior to Bernard, John Rocks and Mary a.k.a. Minnie Corr/Carr had a son Michael and a daughter Elizabeth Claire:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01475/1600722.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01433/1587514.pdf

After Bernard came a daughter Mary Josephine (1916) and 2 sons (1918 & 1921), all born at Ballyheridan.


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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #22 on: Friday 05 May 17 08:49 BST (UK) »

... However it looks like 'Corr' might have been 'Carr', for a Mary Carr of Granemore married John Rocks of Ballyheridan in Ballymacnab RC Church in 1912, her father was Michael Carr, a farmer, his was James Rocks, a labourer:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09926/5608522.pdf


Into more speculative territory now.  A possibility just to note for the John Rocks who married Mary Corr/Carr in 1912 is this one born at Hazel Hill to James Rocks and Mary Kernaghan in 1880:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02865/2049476.pdf

The parents James Rocks (father John, a labourer) and Mary Kernaghan a.k.a. Kernan (father John, a labourer) were married on 9 December 1874 in Armagh RC Church, their address was Ballynahone. 

Again just within the realms of possibility and so just to note until ruled in or out, this could be Mary (Anne) Corr, born in 1889 to parents Michael Corr and Elizabeth Anne Hughes:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02488/1922985.pdf

The parents Michael Corr (father Francis, a farmer) and Anne Hughes (father James, a farmer) were married on 3 August 1875 in Derrynoose RC Church, he was from 'Ferlagh', she from Granemore.


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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 20:18 BST (UK) »
My grandad on my mother's side was Rocks who was born at his family home on Rock Road, Armagh. The house is still standing and my family live near it. They had a quarry next to the house which they ran.  His father was John, I think John's wife was called Evelyn (sp).  This is my first step in trying to trace my family and I have came across this.  My grandad was called Benny (Benjamin) and was born in 1914.

I think that John's family came from Clady / Granemore area as my grandmother was from Granemore and both sets of families were friends I believe.

Welcome to RootsChat.  The only candidate for Bernard's birth that I can readily see is this one, registered in Keady, he was named Bernard Aloysius and was born on 1 October 1914 in the townland of Granemore to parents John Rox (farmer) and Minnie Corr:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01397/1574415.pdf

However it looks like 'Corr' might have been 'Carr', for a Mary Carr of Granemore married John Rocks of Ballyheridan in Ballymacnab RC Church in 1912, her father was Michael Carr, a farmer, his was James Rocks, a labourer:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09926/5608522.pdf

On the face of it, that information would read across to these possibilities in the 1911 Ireland census, just to note for now:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Ballyaros/Ballyheridan/325163/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Armaghbrague/Granemore/321522/

Prior to Bernard, John Rocks and Mary a.k.a. Minnie Corr/Carr had a son Michael and a daughter Elizabeth Claire:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01475/1600722.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01433/1587514.pdf

After Bernard came a daughter Mary Josephine (1916) and 2 sons (1918 & 1921), all born at Ballyheridan.

I've just started doing my family tree and was interested to come across this thread. I have small list of names on the Rocks family and much of the above marries with this list of names my father could remember.  I have a John Rocks also living on Rocks road. It's my understanding that they owned a quarry.

In particular I have John Rocks being married to a ? Carr, which would align with the suggestion of Mary Carr. Their child is identified by Gaffys links as Michael  which ties with my Paternal Grandfather and the date of birth sounds correct at 1912 .

I am not sure this takes the discussion forward, beyond providing some anecdotal corroboration for what's above.

Thanks for posting, it's helped move me forward in my pottering through the family tree. 

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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 20:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Adrian, the only John Rock(s) in my tree was born 1837 the son of Simon Rock and Ann Burke. The name is normally spelt Rock, that is how it is spelt on birth and death records. However, in some cases other family members spell with an S.

The Patrick Rock came from Co. Armagh and moved to Omagh where he married and is buried, he is my wife great-grandfather.

If you want to know more I suggest you message me and I will give you my email.

Thanks
Tony

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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 14:41 BST (UK) »
Hi all id be interested in hearing further information on the Rocks' you have information on. I have a Michael Rocks born approx 1836 according to the 1901 census he was living at a house 5 Seaghan, Lisnadill, Michael is listed living with his 2nd wife Margaret McParland, they married at Ballymacnab RC  1864.  At time of marriage Michael was listed as a widower, his 1st wife was Elizabeth McKee, they married 1862, had a son Michael born to Elizabeth Mckee 1863, so im assuming she died from possible complications at childbirth. Michael went on to have further children with Margaret Mcparland. James Rocks born 1867, Thomas Rocks born 1869 (my gggf) Edward Rocks born 1870, Patrick born 1871, Felix Rocks born 1874. All baptised in Ballymacnab RC. Thomas Rocks son of Michael married Elizabeth Quinn (relative of Bishop Austin Quinn) in 1898 in Ballymacnab. Witness's were Thomas & Lizzie Toner.

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Re: Rocks family
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 16:16 BST (UK) »
None of the names/dates tie in with the Rock family on my tree however if you are able to message me I can forward a database that I received from the Co.Armagh church archives showing me all my Rock connections, dates of births etc. I can send this in a word document.