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Sorting out my Jane Whale's
« on: Saturday 06 June 15 15:21 BST (UK) »
Good day - I would really appreciate the guidance of finer minds than my own to sort out an ancestral puzzle for me!

One of my ancestors John Hatter married a Jane Whale in 1848, Calne, Wiltshire at St Andrew Church.  (Unfortunately there is some question about his DOB as well but I will deal with that in another post!)

However, I have two potential Jane Whale's (well possibly three I guess) for the bride and have been unable to sort out which is correct.  If anyone could help by identifying her parents or another useful tidbit I would be most grateful.

The info I have for both is:
Jane Whale
England Births and Christenings
Name:   Jane Whale
Gender:   Female
Christening Date:   17 Sep 1820
Christening Place:   BROMHAM,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name:   Angel Whale
Mother's Name:   Mary Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05432-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 950238, 950256

Jane Whale
England Births and Christenings
Name:   Jane Whale
Gender:   Female
Christening Date:   06 Jan 1822
Christening Place:   Christian-Malford, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name:   Anthony Whale
Mother's Name:   Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02748-5 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1279400

There is also a Jane Whale born a bit later who could be a contender I suppose
Jane Whale
England Births and Christenings
Name:   Jane Whale
Gender:   Female
Christening Date:   14 Aug 1825
Christening Place:   CODFORD SAINT PETER,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name:   John Whale
Mother's Name:   Sarah

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01440-2 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1279400
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Sorting out my Jane Whale's
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 June 15 15:27 BST (UK) »
What does the marriage certificate say about her father.
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Re: Sorting out my Jane Whale's
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 June 15 15:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie - I haven't located the marriage cert
Regards, Carol
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Sorting out my Jane Whale's
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 June 15 15:41 BST (UK) »
Hi the 1851/61 suggests Jane b c 1820 Bromham
1861 RG09/1287/10/1
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Sorting out my Jane Whale's
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 June 15 15:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Keyboard - yes but my problem has been the various dates on the different docs seem to be "fluid" re dob's and because I have two Jane Whales within a couple of years of each other I am trying to be very specific about which one I am working on...

At the moment I have her remarrying in her 60's and ending up dying in a lunatic asylum (and frankly I may join her at the rate I am going on this!)

I am working on basis that the John Hatter she married was born in 1805 to William and Catherine Hatter which makes her quite a bit older her than her.
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Sorting out my Jane Whale's
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 June 15 16:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie - I haven't located the marriage cert
Regards, Carol

WiltshireBMD says it is at St Andrew, Heddington.    If you are not convinced about the census entries/ parents /ages for this couple it may be a good idea to buy the marriage cert.
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Re: Sorting out my Jane Whale's
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 June 15 15:15 BST (UK) »
Given their ages at Marriage they both may have been married before.
It appears from 1841 Census John was to a Sarah.

You really need the M/C as suggested :)

Dec 1848, Calne, 8 535
Jane Whale/John Hatter

On 1886 Marriage Jane is down as Whale/Hatter on WiltsBMD
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Re: Sorting out my Jane Whale's
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 June 15 16:34 BST (UK) »
Hi all - yes I have ordered the MC. The problem is further compounded by the fact that Jane Whale married a John Hatter  - but there is also another John Hatter of similar age in the area who also married a Jane.  Oh well, I will pick away at it. 

Thanks for the input everyone.
Regards, Carol
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ