Ringrose and Tagg surnames

[Geoff-E]

Looking at burials of RINGROSEs in Long Sutton, FreeREG has only three -

Thomas 1790 (60)
Susanna 1781 (84)
Joseph 1782 (40)

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A mother and two sons?
Looking for a Thomas RINGROSE with mother Susanna in Lincs fails
 ... but in Burnby, Yorkshire, 18 May 1731 Thomas RINGROSE, son of John and Susanna
and
(same place) 23 Jan 1741 Joseph RINGROSE, son of John and Susanna
also a daughter Susanna in 1743.

but quite a distance away. 

***SPECULATION OVER***

[rosie99]

Thanks for the link to the register Geoff, I could not find it on there yesterday under Long Sutton. I will master that site one day.  I always prefer to find the register over the transcript even more so when looking for someone else.   

I agree with you that the register says that Thomas is batch and that it says Sarah Dandison 'Spin'.

Sorry Bettye.

[trish1120]

I would say important given the Witnesses at the 1813 Marriage as we have Tagg and Read as Witnesses.

Burial;
JAMES READ Tagg, 25 Feb 1828, St Marys, Long Sutton, age 2
(FreeREG)

Christening from F/S;
James Read TAGG, 29 Nov 1825, Parents WILLIAM/CAROLINE, abode Sutton

1851 Caroilne Tagg is born c  1802 St Johns, Norfolk and William Tagg c 1800 Pinkstone, Derbyshire

Marriage is on FreeREG 9 Nov 1821, St John,   Terrington St John, Norfolk
William is of Sutton St Mary Lincolnshire*
Witnesses, Abraham/Rebecca Tagg*

1841 in Sutton, Lincs we have;
William Tagg. 45, Farmer
Caroline Tagg, 35
Rebecca Tagg, 15
Pleasance Tagg, 15
Caroline Tagg, 12
Sarah Read (Tagg), 4
James Read (Tagg), 8 Mths

So could William be Johns Brother?

Will try and track down Abraham Tagg!

Trish

[bjh1225]

Rosie, it certainly makes more sense that Susannah Ringrose's father died in Long Sutton, Lincolnshire than the one that lived and died in the London area.

Thank you for this information.    Regards,  Bettye

This could be Thomas's' burial in Long Sutton from freereg making his birth c1730. Death same year as Susanna was born 

Long Sutton - St. Mary
Burial 15 April 1790
Thomas RINGROSE
Age   60
occ   Farmer
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[bjh1225]

Geoff-E     "Thank You"  for posting the link to the marriage record of Thomas Ringrose and Sarah ?  It is difficult to determine was her surname was due to being listed in various ways plus one record showing she was a spinster and another that she was a widow.  Since I do not know her maiden name I do not have a way to estimate Sarah's age when they married.
To further 'muddle the waters', their dght, Susannah Ringrose,  is listed with 2 different dates:   15 April, 1790 and 25 April, 1790.  both supposedly her christening dates.

I have mixed emotions as to whether the Thomas Ringrose that died on 15 April, 1790 was the same man as the Thomas Ringrose in the above records.  Would be strange for him to die on the same date as one listed for Susannah Ringrose in the above  paragraph.


I have a lot of further research to do on this family.     Thanks, Bettye




Also, Thomas RINGROSE was Batch^r - was he really the man aged nearly 60? Perhaps he was.


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[bjh1225]

Trish,   I appreciate the info that you took the time to find and post to me.   My eyes are too tired tonight to read and copy the data.  I am age 83 and by night time I am 'all done in'.

Congratulations !  I see you have a baby.

Regards.  Bettye

[bjh1225]

Geoff,   The Thomas Ringrose Tagg that is the focus of my research was  christened in Gedney, Lincolnshire on 17 Oct, 1814, birth date of 8 Oct, 1814 in Gedney.  Parents were John Tagg and Susannah Ringrose.   They married at St Mary, Long Sutton, Lincolnshire on 20 July, 1813.

I have found a John Tagg b 22 Feb, 1765 in Spalding, Linoclnshire but that seems a tad old for him to be the one that married Susannah Ringrose in 1813.   His parents were listed as being John Tagg and  Elizabeth.  ( England Births and Christenings, 1538 - 1975   Vol 3 & Vol 4).

Susannah Ringrose was b in Long Sutton, Lincolnshire on  15 or 25  April, 1790.
Both dates come from the above cited record index.

There is a possible connection with East Yorkshire  but I have yet to prove it because of the distance btw Linconchire and Yorkshire and the dates involved.
The above named Thomas Ringrose Tagg married Mary Coultas in Grantham, Lincolnshire on28 March, 1837.   Supposedly her Coultas grandparents resided in the Thwing area of Yorkshire in the 1750 t0 1850 time frame.   Robert Coultas b 1752  & d 1820;  Jane Vickerman b 1755 and d 1840.  I just cannot resolve in my mind how their supposed son, James Coultas was b 17 Aug, 1787 in Grantham could be born there yet they supposedly lived in Yorkshire.

Regards,  Bettye

[Geoff-E]

The 1837 marriage register is here (2nd on the left)
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=652081&iid=317343

Lots of witnesses!

[bjh1225]

UP DATE  -  Freereg shows this for James Coultass  and probable twin, Mary:
christened on 21 Fwb 1819 at St Wulfrum, Lincolnshire,  Register 22,  Father was James Coultass ,  machine maker,   and mother was Mary.   They resided in LIttle Gonerby.    I am guessing  that the above Mary is the one that married  Thomas Ringrose Tagg on 28 March,  1837 in Grantham, Lincolnshire.


Regards,  Bettye