Robert Miller and Jane Low

[robtaylor]

Liz with dates
Stan Taylor .. me dad
Sarah Miller .. Grandmother 30/1/1904 at Stanley, Co. Durham
Allen Miller .. Great grandad 29/5/1865 at Washington, Co. Durham
Allen Miller .. Great great Grandad about 1834 Edinburgh
Helen/Ellen Miller GGG grandmother 11/3/1808 Edinburgh
Robert Millar the bookbinder.

[shopbooth]

The 2 certificates have now arrived:

Thomas Bates marriage to Jane Miller
Details as provided by Robtaylor

Thomas Bates birth
Details:
2nd October 1856, Seaton Terrace
Thomas, boy, Father: Thomas Bates, Coal Miner, Mother: Jane Bates (formerly Miller)

Seaton Terrace was a hamlet lying on the Shields-Morpeth road between Holywell and Seaton Delaval.

Don't think that adds anything to the mix?


By my reckoning we have...

Jane Miller, b. 1835-37, Earsdon/Hartley, wife of Thomas Bates from 1855, mother of Thomas b. 1856
daughter of
William Miller, b. Scotland, Coal Miner

Jane Miller, b. 1837-41 Camperdown/West Moor, unmarried mother of Henry b. 1858, wife of Thomas McGlaughlin from 1867
daughter of
William Miller b. ??, Labourer


Does this mean that the family recorded in Hazlerigg in 1841 is Earsdon Jane and they just happen to be living in the very place that Camperdown Jane categorically claims as her birthplace?
If so, where is Camperdown Jane and William Labourer in the 1841 census?

Any ideas how this could become any clearer?

[robtaylor]

Thanks for the post Kevin, I notice Camperdown Jane also has a son James born at Newcastle 1861/2 who can be seen in the 1871 census for Newcastle.
I'm not sure of the best way to proceed, trawling the 1841 census would be time consuming, I've tried numerous searches on findmypast to try to find a suitable second William.
Visiting TWAS to look at Tynemouth Workhouse records, will have to wait until I have a holiday because of their poor opening hours. Meanwhile if anything does turn up please let us know.
Regards
Rob Taylor
North Shields

[shopbooth]

I did come across a baptism of Jane Miller at All Saints, Newcastle but not sure if this has previously cropped up and been ruled out or is a known fact???:

8 Oct 1836
Jane Miller, father William Miller, mother Ann


Is this most likely the daughter of William and Ann (Surtees)? or would she have been baptised somewhere north/north east of Newcastle.

[robtaylor]

Remember I did this about ten years ago but I have notes suggesting  William and Ann were living at Wideopen but that needs checked as I don't have a copy of the original, I've always thought that was William and Ann Surtees. George Reavley and Helen Miller married at All Saints in 1840 but they were described as living at St. Anthony's.

[robtaylor]

The Jane Miller baptism is on familysearch and abode is given as Wideopen.

[joejl]

Hi all,
Rob Taylor has made me aware of this and in effect other related threads on the Edinburgh Miller/Low(Law) family.
He and I are descended via  clear family trees descended, (he by the eldest and I the youngest), from sons of Robert and Jane's grandson Allan, (b 1834). DNA could probably establish if others of you researching their link wish to confirm it.........I, my brother and another Miller descended cousin have already taken autosomal DNA tests via ancestry. If any of you who are unsure whether your ancestry includes the Miller/Low family and want to confirm it  why not take a test - if you share DNA with myself, my brother and my cousin you are,  (unless we have other common ancestry), also a descendant of Robert and Jane.  JOE L