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Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« on: Sunday 14 June 15 03:08 BST (UK) »
Have a Hanover Stevenson, son of Robert, married to Margaret Keown, daughter of John, in Downpatrick 15 Sept 1851. Emigrated to USA approximately 1873. Children: Robert, John and Maria all born Ireland. Possibly others. Trying to identify if Hanover S. is the HANS Stevenson listed in Belfast in 1860 Griffiths V. The only other Hans Stevenson listed in Tullyveery, Killyleagh, Co. Down in 1863 Griffiths V. died in 1908. Or is Hans a different person than Hanover? Also searching for more info. on the father's Robert S. and John K.

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Re: Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 June 15 06:04 BST (UK) »

Children: Robert, John and Maria all born Ireland. Possibly others.


Also a daughter Margaret:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VTZ1-NYZ

Hanover was the son of Robert and Mary Stephenson, he was baptised in Clough Presbyterian Church, County Down, in 1824.

Incidentally, the Belfast Telegraph in 1897 carried an article listing recent subscriptions received for a statue of the Queen in Belfast, among them a shilling donated by Mr Hanover Stevenson, Rochester, N.Y. U.S.A.

 

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Re: Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 June 15 10:07 BST (UK) »
Following on from Gaffy's 1875 Census ,Robert age 9 born 1866 this looks like his birth if so a copy should get the townland address for you.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F55F-C1S
possible cert
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY5P-W6N

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Re: Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 June 15 16:25 BST (UK) »
Records exist from 1791 for Clough 1st Presbyterian Church- in Clough village behind the Non Subscribing Presbyterian Church. Records; Linenhall Library, Belfast has records 1791-1934) -personal visits only; graveyard attached, gravestone inscriptions available UHF Vol 9; email me for a gravestone look-up
Also the same records exist for Clough Non Subscribing or 2nd Presbyterian Church on Castlewellan Rd.  The congregation was formed in 1829 after a splut with Clough Presbyterian Church.   Records of this church are from 1837 but they did retain the old registers from before the split dating from 1791 which are copied in the Blackwood Collection in the Belfast Linen Hall Library; Linenhall Library,Belfast has records 1791 -1934) -personal visits only; Graveyard attached, gravestone inscriptions UHF Vol 9, oldest stone 1829; email me for a gravestone look-up

1824  Gaffy quote “Hanover was the son of Robert and Mary Stephenson, he was baptised in Clough Presbyterian Church, County Down, in 1824.”

1828  No Stevenson found in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/loughinisland-parish.php#.VX2UJkuDoYU However The tithes did not include many people
Keown, Thomas   Townland: Knocksticken Year: 1828

1833  No Stevenson found in From http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/down-parish.php#.VX2TQUuDoYU   However
Keown, Hamilton   Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833
Keown, John   Townland: Ardmeen Year: 1833
Keown, John   Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833
Keown, John   Townland: Struell Year: 1833
Keown, R., Esq.   Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833
Keown, Richd.   Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833
Keown, Robert   Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833
Keown, Thomas   Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833
Keown, Wm.   Townland: Demesne of Down Year: 1833

From http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies you need her permission for commercial use
1849  John  STEVENSON . Loughinisland  land steward at Seaforde 10 Nov 1849  DR
1850  Miss   Jessie  STEVENSON . Loughinisland  daughter of John Stevenson ; married John Farmer 24 Dec 1850  CR Could be a relative
1851  Hanover  STEVENSON    .  Down  regd. Downpatrick; son of Robert Stevenson; married Margaret Keown 15 Sep 1851  CR
1851  Miss   Margaret  KEOWN  .  Down  regd. Downpatrick; daughter of John Keown ; married Hanover Stevenson 15 Sep 1851  CR
1871  Samuel  STEVENSON  .  Loughinisland  b. Drumgooland, son of John Stevenson; ex army; whilst living at Annadorn, married Mary Ann Frackelton of Drumgooland 3 Apr 1871 in Kilmegan Church of Ireland; ; father of Rose Anne b. 26 Jan at Woodgrange & bpt. 25 Feb 1872 & Margaret Jane b. 1873 & Elizabeth b. 22 Jul 1874 at Ballynahinch & Mary b. 23 Dec 1876 at Down & Robert b. 20 May 1878 at Farranfad (died aged 11) & William John b. 18 Oct 1879 at Farranfad & Samuel b. 1881 & Ellen b. 1883 & James b. 1886  CR; Trish Cole There is a separate entry for Miss Rose Ann b 1872 above
1872  Miss  Mary Jane  STEVENSON  .  Loughinisland   married Andrew Flemming 23 Jul 1872 in Seaforde Church of Ireland  PR
1874  John  STEVENSON  .  Loughinisland   married Eliza Kennedy 13 Mar 1874 in Seaforde Church of Ireland  PR
1876  Miss  Mary Anne  STEVENSON  .  Loughinisland  married John Dugan 26 May 1876 at Loughinisland Church of Ireland  CR/EA
I didnt check out PRONI's many databases
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Re: Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 December 15 17:03 GMT (UK) »
I am curious to know if any additional information was found on Robert and Mary Stevenson (Stephenson) of Downpatrick, parents of Hanover, or John Keown, father of Margaret.

Hanover Stevenson of Downpatrick and Rochester NY is my great-great-grandfather. He and my great-grandfather, John Stevenson, show up in the Rochester city directory in 1877. None of them show up in the U.S. census of 1880 for some reason.
http://www.libraryweb.org/rochcitydir/images/1877/1877r-s.pdf

I saw the 1875 census listing, but do not yet know what became of children Robert and Mary Stevenson. Daughter Margaret continued to live with her parents until Hanover's death in 1911. Margaret died between the 1900 and 1910 censuses.
http://www.mocavo.com/search?start=0&limit=10&dataset%5B%5D=126211&nc%5Bname_first%5D=Hanover&nc%5Bname_last%5D=Stevenson&nc%5Bplace_city_residence%5D=rochester&nc%5Bplace_county_residence%5D=monroe&nc%5Bplace_state_residence%5D=new+york

Hanover Stevenson(DOB 1825) & Margaret Keown -> John Stevenson(1851) & Anna M -> Robert W Stevenson(1902) & Clara Krause -> Robert J Stevenson(1928) & Mary Mentesana -> Robert A Stevenson (1959)

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Re: Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 December 15 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Hanover Stevenson of Downpatrick and Rochester NY is my great-great-grandfather. He and my great-grandfather, John Stevenson, show up in the Rochester city directory in 1877. None of them show up in the U.S. census of 1880 for some reason.

Haven't looked at original image but the family are indexed as Sorenson in 1880 census-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZDN-GBX
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Re: Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 December 15 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Haven't looked at original image but the family are indexed as Sorenson in 1880 census-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZDN-GBX
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Thanks! However did you find that?

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Re: Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 December 15 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Took about 5 seconds- just searched with first name Hanover (no surname entered) and place (Any) as Rochester, N.Y.
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Re: Stevensons and Keown's in Downpatrick
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 December 15 23:45 GMT (UK) »
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I found an obituary exists for Hanover Stevenson in Historical Obituaries ie http://www.genealogybank.com . You would need to register and there may be charges

Quote Gaffy ‘ Hanover was the son of Robert and Mary Stephenson, he was baptised in Clough Presbyterian Church, County Down, in 1824.  That date is about 6 years or more earlier than what he admits to census etc  ‘  Clough is in Loughinisland civil parish.  More modern Census used districts rather than parishes.  Clough itself is less than a mile away from Cloughram townland in the civil parish of Kilmegan. Cloughram has a connection with Elizabeth Stevenson b 1828  a widow farmer with family, and ten years later is joined by a John [her son?] with family nearby son see 1901 and 1911 census They are Church of Ireland . This townland has the famous Mount Panther house.  However I could find no trace of earlier Stephenson/Stevenson in the Tithes Applotment books or Griffiths valuation under Kilmegan  One of the prior owners may have kept records
Church records exist for Clough Presbyterian Church:-   Ros Davies website lists for ’Clough 1st Presbyterian Records; Linenhall Library, Belfast has records 1791-1934) -personal visits only; graveyard attached, gravestone inscriptions available UHF Vol 9; email me Ros Davies for a gravestone look-up ‘.The originals records 1791-1837 are held by Clough Non Subscribing or 2nd Presbyterian Church on Castlewellan Rd and copied by R Blackwood and this is in the Linenhall Library.  That source might reveal more about Stepheson/Stevenson relatives

The below information gleaned from yourselves and http://www.ancestryireland.com www.familysearch.com, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/

1.  John Stevenson  [bbb 1810]  named as father of Robert
children
1.1.  Robert Stevenson [bbb 1835.] Down regd. Downpatrick; son of John Stevenson ; married Mary Harton 21 Jun 1851   CR
Miss   Mary   HARTON Down regd. Downpatrick; daughter of Robert Harton ; married Robert Stevenson 21 Jun 1851CR   {Notes Harten Harton scarce name existed in Killyleagh, Magheradrool, Magherally.}
children no proof of connection
1.1.1  Hanover Stevenson b~1830- . Down regd. Downpatrick; son of Robert Stevenson; married Margaret Keown 15 Sep 1851   CR  https://www.emeraldancestors.com has buy credit s normally Hanover at 74 was a a nightwatchman in the city
Miss  Margaret Keown .Down regd. Downpatrick; daughter of  John Keown ; married Hanover Stevenson 15 Sep 1851 CR  Small database of Keown on Ros davies website.
children 7 children born, 3 living in 1910 see USA Census detail
1.1.1.  John Stevenson Christening Date 15 Feb 1852 Christening Place Downpatrick, Down, Ireland what happened to John in the USA. I couldn’t identify him after 1880 usacensus
1.1.2.  Maria Stevenson b 1859  Ireland see 1878 immmigration list , aged 19,  did she move away, marry or die in USA between 1878 and 1880.??
1.1.3.  Margaret Stevenson  no location b Dec 1862  lived with parents eg age 47 in 1910 Hanover now 85,  Margaret    migrated  or arrived recheck 17 Oct1873 via Glasgow and Movill was a dressmaker
1.1.4.  Robert Stevenson b 1866   d. 20 Dec 1898   Roberts birth  transcribed as Robert Steevens 17 Mar 1866 Downpatrick  father Hanover Steevens  lived at 7 Armstrong St. Boston, Massachusetts -married –a shoemaker- no details found of a wife and children if any.
three further unnamed children were born to Hanover & Margaret and ,  possibly buried Ireland and so might be in Clough Presbtyerian Ist or 2nd   or even buried in the Church of Ireland. source  the 1910 USA census details.
Hanover Stevenson family emigration from Co Down has insufficient dates and information.
Pre 1873  No information yet found,  One would have expected Hanover to have gone first, with or without his eldest son John
1873  Margaret aged 45 and daughter Margaret  Stevenson aged 11 emmigrate  in 1873  Margaret is described as a Matron.
1875  The family are all together see ‘ gaffy ‘ New York State Census, 1875 . This census is all handwritten by the same enumerator
Anover Stevens  b~1830  Ward 07 Rochester, Monroe, New York, United States naturalised and owner of Land ticked  The later address was Ward  12
Anover Stevens labourer   M 45  ie b~ 1830 could be Hanover Stevenson/Stephenson
Margret Stevens   Wife   F  45 ie b~ 1830 could be   
John Stevens Son carpenter   M 22 ie b~ 1853 could be
Mary Stevens   Daughter   F  19 ie b~ 1856 has Monroe birth    Mary, Maria? or both
Margret Stevens Daughter    F 16 ie b~ 1859 has Monroe continued
Robert Stevens   Son   M   9 ie b~ 1866 has Monroe continued   
1878.  Part of the family emmigrates
Hanover Stevenson Immigration 1878 New York City, New York, United States Male 45 1833 Ireland Pennsylvania
John Stevenson Immigration 1878 New York City, New York, United States Male 21 1857 Ireland Pennsylvania
Maria Stevenson Immigration 1878 New York City, New York, United States Female 19 1859 Ireland   
1880 USA Census together except for Maria, all under the name Sorenson
1880 census Household ID   10858860 Event Place    Rochester, Monroe, New York
Notes:- Hanover Sorenson family  1880 USA census original examined BUT why ‘Sorenson’ the house was owned by a Sorenson.  I am unable to fathom the use of the name except for enumerator error. Have you any thoughts?
1890 USA Census s mostly destroyed on orders of civil servants
1900 USA Census exists relevant entries exist
1910 USA Census exists
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