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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 18 June 15 20:21 BST (UK) »
However - result for you  - I do have the marriage of!!!!!!

George Crutch to Priscilla Cam on 10 March 1817 after banns at St Marys Church, Great Milton he was a bach otp and she was a spinster otp. The witnesses were: William Hood & Joseph Coleman (he did loads)

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Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 18 June 15 20:36 BST (UK) »
You are a genius, I can't thank you enough!  Now so many questions

Was Priscilla Cam bpt in Great Milton?
Where was George Crutch bpt?
Where were all the little Crutch's bpt?

and how and where does Wells, the other name that Priscilla used fit into all this???

Once again big thank you for your help

Valerie




Derbys: Ward, Hopkinson, Bradley, Birds, Clarke, Taylor, Daykin, Gent, Vardy, Cotterill, Stocks, Godber, Dronfield, Charlesworth, Bonsall, Purseglove
Notts: Clarke, Freeman, Kitchen, Allcock, Housley, Swanwick, Berrisford, Farnsworth, Antcliffe
Staffs: Nutt, Bowring
Yorks: Holling, Fish, Kay, Hardy
Lincs: Plummer, Broughton, Wellbourne

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #20 on: Friday 19 June 15 09:12 BST (UK) »
Valerie

I wonder if you can consolidate what you now know - given the replies on here - into a summary so that we can have a chance of going forward helping you with your search for your somewhat elusive rellies please?

Nigel
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #21 on: Friday 19 June 15 09:39 BST (UK) »
Just to help you understand the parish records.
Little Milton was a chapelry of Great Milton until 1844 after which time Little Milton held its own records. Whilst a chapelry the records were held / kept / maintained at Great Milton which began records in 1550.

I cannot see a baptism of Priscilla CAMM nor WELLS in any of these records nor anything that is close except:

Burial on 18 Feb 1795 in Great Milton of Priscilla CAMM d o Thomas and Elizabeth CAMM of Little Milton.
Sadly I cannot see her baptism butttt I wonder if Thomas and Elizabeth had another daughter after 1795 to whom they gave the first name Priscilla but no baptism to prove this!!

I cannot see a connection via marriage or stated father of an illegitimate child etc between CAMM and WELLS.


Running out of options here perhaps the consolidation info I spoke of earlier may help if you can do one?

Nigel

Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #22 on: Friday 19 June 15 12:12 BST (UK) »
Going back to the Canadian census (1860 ), for George's religion it said WM - does this mean some type of non-conformist.
Perhaps the children were baptised in a NC chapel near Stadhampton or Little or Great Milton
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #23 on: Friday 19 June 15 19:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you again Nigel and Lizzie.  I am helping a colleague whose ancestors are George Crouch and Priscilla Can with her research.  Family legend refers to Priscilla sometimes as Cam and sometimes as Wells.

Children of George Cruch/Crutch/Crouch and Priscilla (now known to be nee Cam) are
Elizabeth 1817-182?
Charles 1821-1837
Jane 1823-1827
John 1826
Alfred 1830
Thomas 1831
Francis 1832
George 1834
Caleb 1838
Eliza born 16/4/1840

In the 1841 census they were living in Roke, all born Oxfordshire.
They appear in Canada in the 1851 census.
There is anecdotal evidence that their first child Elizabeth was born and buried in Ludgershall, Wilts.  I am now wondering whether this should be Ludgershall, Berks?
According to the census returns George was born in 1790 and Priscilla in 1797.  The seven year age gap is consistent through all census returns.
At the marriage of George and Priscilla's son John, his place of birth is given as Little Milton. 
George died in 1864 and Priscilla died in 1876.

Think that is all that is known.  Anything that you can unearth would be much appreciated.

Not sure what WM might mean - Weslyan Methodist perhaps?

Valerie
Derbys: Ward, Hopkinson, Bradley, Birds, Clarke, Taylor, Daykin, Gent, Vardy, Cotterill, Stocks, Godber, Dronfield, Charlesworth, Bonsall, Purseglove
Notts: Clarke, Freeman, Kitchen, Allcock, Housley, Swanwick, Berrisford, Farnsworth, Antcliffe
Staffs: Nutt, Bowring
Yorks: Holling, Fish, Kay, Hardy
Lincs: Plummer, Broughton, Wellbourne

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 20 June 15 09:57 BST (UK) »
Valerie -


I am really struggling to find anything, other than the 1841 census, for the bpt of George Crouch/Cruch/Crutch probably born in Little Milton circa 1790 and the bpt of a Priscilla either Wells or Cam circa 1797 and appropriate marriages circa 1816.

Valerie

You say you're "struggling to find anything" - but you don't say where you've looked!!

Many of Oxfordshire's parish registers aren't on the internet.

Oxfordshire Family History Society has transcribed the parish registers of Oxfordshire, and it's those transcripts which some of those helping you have used.

However, the Society has also compiled county-wide indexes of baptisms, marriages and burials, which can be used to complement the trranscripts on CD.

I suggest you have searches done for the events you're seeking :-)

Go to Surname Search Services at the left at www.ofhs.org.uk

Wendy
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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 20 June 15 10:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your input Wendy.  Only very recently managed to place George and Priscilla Cruch/Crutch/Crouch in Oxfordshire.  Their census entries in Canada and the US unhelpfully state that they were born in England, so have been looking in all counties.  Will follow up your suggestions.

Valerie
Derbys: Ward, Hopkinson, Bradley, Birds, Clarke, Taylor, Daykin, Gent, Vardy, Cotterill, Stocks, Godber, Dronfield, Charlesworth, Bonsall, Purseglove
Notts: Clarke, Freeman, Kitchen, Allcock, Housley, Swanwick, Berrisford, Farnsworth, Antcliffe
Staffs: Nutt, Bowring
Yorks: Holling, Fish, Kay, Hardy
Lincs: Plummer, Broughton, Wellbourne

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 21 June 15 21:51 BST (UK) »
Nigel,

I am a new member that Valerie was helping regarding George Crouch and Percilla.  I see you found and after marriage bann for them somewhere.  I would like to have a copy of this, but do
not know where to start.  I live in the U.S.  Can you help me?

Sharon