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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 June 15 12:32 BST (UK) »
The children in 1841 seem to match quite well with those on the 1851 canada census.

Family search has a marriage for a John Crouch in Iowa, USA. He is said to have been born in Little Milton, Oxon, England in 1825, parents George Crouch and Priscilla Cam.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 June 15 12:19 BST (UK) »
That's brilliant Lizzie, thank you so much.

I'm still trying to work out how this all fits together.  Priscilla is referred to both as Wells and Cam, but as yet I haven't been able to find a marriage for either Priscilla Wells to a Mr Cam or to George Crouch, or a Priscilla Cam to George Crouch.  No sign of a Priscilla Cam baptism either. 

I had tried searching using wildcards, but hadn't got as far as Cruch and Priscilla seems to be spelt every which way!

Please very nicely, would you have time to let me have the Cruch entries on the 1841 census in Stadhampton?  There must surely be a connection between them and the ones at Roke.

Again, many thanks
Valerie
Derbys: Ward, Hopkinson, Bradley, Birds, Clarke, Taylor, Daykin, Gent, Vardy, Cotterill, Stocks, Godber, Dronfield, Charlesworth, Bonsall, Purseglove
Notts: Clarke, Freeman, Kitchen, Allcock, Housley, Swanwick, Berrisford, Farnsworth, Antcliffe
Staffs: Nutt, Bowring
Yorks: Holling, Fish, Kay, Hardy
Lincs: Plummer, Broughton, Wellbourne

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 17 June 15 12:41 BST (UK) »
Edward    Cruch    35    Ag Lab
Pricilla    Cruch    35    
Mary    Cruch    10    
Emma Cruch    8    
Jane    Cruch    3    
James    Cruch    9 months    
Martha    Cruch    60    (recorded as lodger then crossed out)

Living at Cold Harbour house, Stadhampton. All born Oxfordshire

No relationships given, but Martha could be Edward's widowed mother.

Separate family, same address

Martin Cruch    55    1786    
Sarah    Cruch    45    
Elizabeth    Cruch    20    
Edward    Cruch    13    
Sarah    Cruch    10    
Rachel    Cruch    5    
All born Oxfordshire
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 June 15 15:06 BST (UK) »
The birth of 9 month old James has been registered in quarter 3 1840 Abingdon district as James Crutch Vol 6 page 118.

and 1 year old Eliza registered as Eliza Crutch Quarter 2 1840, Wallingford District Vol 6 page 255.

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Found Martin and Family in 1851 - it comes up in Berkshire because Abingdon is in Berkshire, although Stadhampton is in Oxfordshire.

Martin Cruch    Head  67    (1784)    Ag Lab    b Ascott, Oxfordshire    
Sarah Cruch    Wife    57    (1794)    b    Aston Sandford, Buckinghamshire
Thomas Cruch    Son    Unmarried    36    (1815 )   Ag Lab    Ascott, Oxfordshire
Edward Cruch    Son    Unmarried    22    (1829)    Ag Lab b Stadhampton   
Rachel Cruch    Daughter    15  (1836)  b  Stadhampton

Also Edward and the other Priscilla:
Edward Cruch    Head    44    (1807)    Ag Lab    b Milton, Oxfordshire
Priscilla Cruch    Wife     44    1807    Ascott, Oxfordshire
Mary A Cruch    Daughter    19    (1832 )   b Stadhampton
Jane    Cruch    Daughter    12    (1839)    b Stadhampton
James Cruch    Son     10    (1841)    b Stadhampton
William Cruch    Son    8    (1843 )   b Stadhampton
Joseph Cruch    Son    5    (1846)    b Stadhampton
Sarah Cruch    Daughter    2    (1849 )   b Stadhampton

I can't find Martin on later censuses, but Edward is on 1861 and 1871. In 1861 he is widowed, living with him are Mary Ann, James, William, Joseph and Sarah (all unmarried) and two grandsons, Samuel 7 b Abingdon and Richard 1 b Stadhampton, both with Cruch surname, so could be illegitimate children of a daughter. Death registered of Priscilla Crutch Abingdon district Q3 1855.
Death reg of Martin Crutch in Q1 1857

In 1871, William and Sarah are still living with Edward and there are two additional grandchildren, George 6 and Ellen 2 both born Stadhampton. Samuel not with the family
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 17 June 15 19:36 BST (UK) »
Love it, love it, love it - thank you so much.

It's taken a long while to find Eliza, her birth certificate will (hopefully) clarify a bit more about Priscilla.

Re the other Priscilla, apparently Edward Crutch married his cousin Priscilla (nee Crutch) who was the illegitimate daughter of Martha Crutch!

Thanks again
Valerie
Derbys: Ward, Hopkinson, Bradley, Birds, Clarke, Taylor, Daykin, Gent, Vardy, Cotterill, Stocks, Godber, Dronfield, Charlesworth, Bonsall, Purseglove
Notts: Clarke, Freeman, Kitchen, Allcock, Housley, Swanwick, Berrisford, Farnsworth, Antcliffe
Staffs: Nutt, Bowring
Yorks: Holling, Fish, Kay, Hardy
Lincs: Plummer, Broughton, Wellbourne

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 18 June 15 08:20 BST (UK) »
Hi
This marriage may help a little bit?

12 Sept 1831 St John The Baptsist Church, Stadhampton after banns b otp

X CRUCH EDWARD
X CRUCH PRISCILLA

Wits:
X William HUMPHRIES
X Elizabeth BURTON
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 18 June 15 12:19 BST (UK) »
Yes, every little helps thank you

This is the "other" Priscilla.

I am really struggling to find anything, other than the 1841 census, for the bpt of George Crouch/Cruch/Crutch probably born in Little Milton circa 1790 and the bpt of a Priscilla either Wells or Cam circa 1797 and appropriate marriages circa 1816.

Was the "other Priscilla" named after the elusive Priscilla??

Valerie
Derbys: Ward, Hopkinson, Bradley, Birds, Clarke, Taylor, Daykin, Gent, Vardy, Cotterill, Stocks, Godber, Dronfield, Charlesworth, Bonsall, Purseglove
Notts: Clarke, Freeman, Kitchen, Allcock, Housley, Swanwick, Berrisford, Farnsworth, Antcliffe
Staffs: Nutt, Bowring
Yorks: Holling, Fish, Kay, Hardy
Lincs: Plummer, Broughton, Wellbourne

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 18 June 15 20:04 BST (UK) »
Valerie

I have the parish records open for Little Milton and NO Crutch, Crouch  etc spelling variants anywhere in the baptisms.

There is one in marriages for a Jane Crutch -Banns - 1860 Banns read on 2, 9 & 16 Dec for Frederick Augur of Little Milton and Jane CRUTCH of Stadhampton.

Nothing again for this last name in Burials.

Nigel
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: George Crouch and family 1841 Census
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 18 June 15 20:08 BST (UK) »
Cant see a baptism for a George Crutch (spelling variants) in Stadhampton either I'm afraid.
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,