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Offline skb

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Making Changes to Commonwealth War Graves Records
« on: Thursday 18 June 15 18:41 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any experience of getting changes made to Commonwealth War Graves records and memorials?

The CWGC website says they will consider amendments if documentary evidence is supplied, but what level of evidence is needed to prove an error?

I have found someone who I believe is recorded under the wrong surname (LUCK instead of TUCK). I have copies of articles and an obituary from a local church magazine, which show his army service number, regiment and date of death.  Do you think they would be considered official enough?
Byers (Salford & London)
Stringfellow (Salford & Chorley)
Holmes (Manchester & Birmingham)
Goulding/Golden (Birmingham & Lincolnshire)
Bassett (Manchester & Salford, Staffordshire)
Child (Lincolnshire)
Belshaw (Salford)
Hallsworth (Eccles & Salford)
Vernon (Bury & Chapel en le Frith)

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Re: Making Changes to Commonwealth War Graves Records
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 June 15 19:09 BST (UK) »
Ask them  ;D. If you don't ask the question then you won't get an answer  :o

The worst they can say is "no"

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
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Re: Making Changes to Commonwealth War Graves Records
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 June 15 19:42 BST (UK) »
I agree

If I was a betting man, I'd wager you'll get a considered response
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: Making Changes to Commonwealth War Graves Records
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 June 15 20:24 BST (UK) »
I've found the GWGC people to be a bit obstinate, to be honest.  I have a relative whose mother died during a surgical operation shortly after he fell on the battlefield; it was said that the father then died of grief at losing wife and son in such quick succession.  I have newspaper announcements to show the dates of death, i.e. that they were alive when he was killed, but the CWGC is not prepared to change the wording "the late" submitted by their daughter (the soldier's sister) after the war.

Sooner or later, we're all "the late"!  I maintain that it's irrelevant that the parents were dead by 1919.

Bagwell of Kilmore & Lisronagh, Co. Tipperary;  Beatty from Enniskillen;  Brown from Preston, Lancs.;  Burke of Ballydugan, Co. Galway;  Casement in the IoM and Co. Antrim;  Davison of Knockboy, Broughshane;  Frobisher;  Guillemard;  Harrison in Co. Antrim and Dublin;  Jones around Burton Pedwardine, Lincs.;  Lindesay of Loughry;  Newcomen of Camlagh, Co. Roscommon;  Shield;  Watson from Kidderminster;  Wilkinson from Leeds


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Re: Making Changes to Commonwealth War Graves Records
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 June 15 16:17 BST (UK) »
Well, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I've got the paperwork ready to send off.

Will keep you posted!
Byers (Salford & London)
Stringfellow (Salford & Chorley)
Holmes (Manchester & Birmingham)
Goulding/Golden (Birmingham & Lincolnshire)
Bassett (Manchester & Salford, Staffordshire)
Child (Lincolnshire)
Belshaw (Salford)
Hallsworth (Eccles & Salford)
Vernon (Bury & Chapel en le Frith)

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Re: Making Changes to Commonwealth War Graves Records
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 June 15 07:38 BST (UK) »
I've found the GWGC people to be a bit obstinate, to be honest.  ...
Sooner or later, we're all "the late"!  I maintain that it's irrelevant that the parents were dead by 1919.

I disagree. The CWGC indicate the position when they compiled the database. The extra notes come from the family themselves. They did not get a lot of replies. The date of a lot of deaths were not known for certain, so the person replying may not have known when the soldier died.

Ken

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Re: Making Changes to Commonwealth War Graves Records
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 June 15 08:28 BST (UK) »
Well, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I've got the paperwork ready to send off.

Will keep you posted!

It all depends on the quality of the evidence. I have always found them willing to make changes, but then I've always ensured that what i've submitted is watertight.

Here's what my own family asked for when approached by the then IWGC after the war:

"Son of Eliza Ayers, of "Mayville," Highfield Rd., Maidenhead, and the late William Ayers."

If that's what they asked for then who am I to change it a hundred years later?

Imber
Skewis (Wales and Scotland), Ayers (Maidenhead, Berkshire), Hildreth (Berkshire)