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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 June 15 21:47 BST (UK) »
Looks like it could be the father - William Warren b Bourton c1839 is with wife Martha on 1871

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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 20 June 15 21:48 BST (UK) »
Shrivenham, Bourton & Watchfield parish registers [at the Shrivenham heritage society];
 http://www.shrivenhamheritagesociety.co.uk/listing.asp?listID=1230
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  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 June 15 21:49 BST (UK) »
Warren, Alice daughter of William & Emma  4-Nov-1866                       Thatcher

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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 June 15 21:52 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 20 June 15 21:40 BST (UK)
Do yuo know which William Emma married - father or son??

1861 - Highworth
    
William Warren    64 - widower, thatcher
Emma Frampton    23 - lodger, unmarried, b Bourton on the Hill, Berks

Good thinking!!!
It seems most likely Emma married William the father

Maybe this is his death reg
William Warren Mar qtr 1870 age 73 Highworth

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 June 15 21:53 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 20 June 15 21:49 BST (UK)
Warren, Alice daughter of William & Emma  4-Nov-1866                       Thatcher


At South Marston
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  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 June 15 21:55 BST (UK) »
Eliza Frampton was a widow in the 1861 so I don't think it is her husband James who appears in the 1871 census for the workhouse. It is entirely possible that none of the men you mention are related to Emma and are just fellow workhouse inmates.
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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 20 June 15 21:56 BST (UK) »
i think the baptism I posted sealed it (father a thatcher - William jnr is an ag lab). So it probably is Emma in the workhouse - just her age wrong. Looks like she was widowed whilst expecting Thomas - he appears to be 6 weeks old on 1871

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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 20 June 15 21:58 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 20 June 15 21:40 BST (UK)
Emma Frampton    23 - lodger, unmarried, b Bourton on the Hill, Berks

 This is a small problem, Bourton on the Hill is in Gloucestershire, near Moreton in Marsh. Although there is a previous question about Bourton, Shrivenham being named such,
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  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY

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Re: Completely & utterly Muddled
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 20 June 15 22:12 BST (UK) »
I only knew there was one born 1797 Shiverham. Regards Trish
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