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Re: The mystery of Jane Wiltshire / Annie Down
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 28 June 15 11:20 BST (UK) »
There's a family tree with William Stephens marrying Hannah Waters.  Nothing on any of the children apart from Henry who has a daughter named Selina.

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Dec 1851

Trying to find a family connection but nothing yet.
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Re: The mystery of Jane Wiltshire / Annie Down
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 28 June 15 11:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all of you for your help, it's All very much appreciated. I'll ask my nan if she has Herbert's death certificate. she has a copy of the marriage cert of him and Annie so there is a chance she has the death certificate too.

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Re: The mystery of Jane Wiltshire / Annie Down
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 28 June 15 11:40 BST (UK) »
If she has the marriage perhaps you could note down the witnesses names - sometimes they can provide valuable clues. 

Thanks for sharing this one it's most interesting  :)
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Re: The mystery of Jane Wiltshire / Annie Down
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 28 June 15 11:51 BST (UK) »
The marriage cert shows two witnesses a Robert Joyce and an Ida Trigg. Interestingly Robert Joyce was Annie / janes nephew. Her sister Elizabeth's son. Roberts sister Beatrice also married one of Herbert's sons, Will. It's been a confusing tree to make!


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Re: The mystery of Jane Wiltshire / Annie Down
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 28 June 15 13:13 BST (UK) »
I've found a death registration of a Thomas Down in quarter 3,1901, born around 1866 so age 35 in Newport, Monmouthshire. I wonder if this was Annie's husband? I suspect that they weren't married though hence not being able to find a marriage cert for them. She must have just taken his name rather than appear as 'living in sin'. Still baffled as to how she got to know Herbert in order to marry him. I still think she must have known Selinas family in some way, got to hear about her death and stepped in to look after the children. A mystery I'll probably never get to the bottom of unfortunately!

My nan remembers her fondly as a big, no nonsense woman who was firm. She tried to forbid the Clifford boys to marry as she would have been left without any income if they left home. The boys did marry but Reuben looked after her and she went to live with Reuben and May and stayed with them until her death age 91 in 1947. Nan is saddened to think she spent time in the workhouse - this was never spoken about as she was a very private woman and didn't let on anything of her past to the children, she was a bit of an enigma, no one really knew where she had come from or anything about her past. My nan has photos of her, I'll get her to dig them out and post them on here.

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Re: The mystery of Jane Wiltshire / Annie Down
« Reply #32 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:58 BST (UK) »
I've found a death registration of a Thomas Down in quarter 3,1901, born around 1866 so age 35 in Newport, Monmouthshire. I wonder if this was Annie's husband? I suspect that they weren't married though hence not being able to find a marriage cert for them. She must have just taken his name rather than appear as 'living in sin'.

A possible marriage was found at reply #8.  Was that ever followed up to see if it was her?
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Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
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Re: The mystery of Jane Wiltshire / Annie Down
« Reply #33 on: Friday 08 April 16 21:13 BST (UK) »
No, I didnt get the marriage cert. how do I go about obtaining it please?

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Re: The mystery of Jane Wiltshire / Annie Down
« Reply #34 on: Monday 11 April 16 08:25 BST (UK) »
www.gro.gov uk

Quote the ref from the indexes
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk