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Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« on: Sunday 28 June 15 12:59 BST (UK) »
I am looking for my Great Great great Grandfather on my Fathers Mothers side of the family, Thomas Watkin/s born 1849 I know he was Married to Mary Williams Born 1846 Children John Thomas Born 1871, Margaret J 1872, David 1875, Mary E 1877 and Evan 1880 I think all the children were born in Llanfyllin any help would be appreciated Many thanks in advance :)
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Re: Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 June 15 13:46 BST (UK) »
1881 census 2 Oliver Place, Birkenhead RG11/3580 folio 24 pg 26
Thos Watkins head mar 31 carter b. Wales
Mary wife 34 b. Wales
John T son 10 b. Wales
Margaret J dau 8 b. Cheshire Bhead
David son 6 b. Bhead
Mary E dau 3 b. Bhead
Evan son 4 mo b. Bhead

1871 Fisher St, Llanwyddyn, Montgomeryshire RG10/5635 folio 64 pg 3
Jane Williams head Widow 54 staymaker
Mary Watkins dau mar 25
John Thomas Watkins grandson 6m b. Llanfyllin
Elizabeth Williams dau 14
all born Llanwyddyn except John
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 June 15 13:59 BST (UK) »
This looks like the marriage Thomas Watkins Jan--Mar 1870 Llanfyllin to Mary Williams

Going be the family you posted this looks like them in the 1881 Census
Thos Watkins b 1850 Wales occupation carter address 2,Oliver Place Birkenhead Wales
Mary Watkins b 1847 Wales
John T Watkins b1871,Margaret J b 1873,David 1875,Mary E 1878,Evan 4months all born Wales

1871 Census Fishing Street Llanwddyn Wales
Jane Williams b 1817 Llanwddyn occupation stay maker
Mary Watkins age 25 married daughter
John Thos Watkins age 6 month grandson
Elizabeth Williams age 14 daughter

Sorry Osprey had started to post  :)

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Re: Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 June 15 14:04 BST (UK) »
do you have a copy of the marriage cert to confirm fathers' names & occupations?

Possible for Thomas in 1851
Tynewith, Llwydiarth HO107/2499 folio 241 pg 19
Evan Watkins head mar 34 ag lab
Margaret wife 30
Mary dau 6
Elizabeth dau 4
Thomas son 1 b. Llanfyllin
all others born Llanfihangel (yng Ngwynfa)
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 June 15 14:12 BST (UK) »
Sorry, forgot to say that Thomas was on his own in Llanfyllin in 1871, aged 21 married, labourer & born Llanfyllin living in Waenllys Cottage RG10/5632 folio 58 pg 3

birth regs
Margaret Jane Watkins dec qtr 1872 Birkenhead vol 8a pg 467
David Watkin mar qtr 1874 Birkenhead vol 8a pg 492
Mary Elizabeth Watkins dec qtr 1877 Birkenhead vol 8a pg 486
Evan Watkins march qtr 1881 Birkenhead vol 8a pg 472
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 June 15 14:24 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your help so far it has helped a great deal :)
Hughen/an Sorbie Wigtown
Carmichael Scotland/Liverpool/Manchester
Watkin/s Manchester, Llanfyllin
Wilson/Leicester/Kent
Squire/Clerkenwell
Knight/Manchester/Horton Yorkshire
Hetherington/Lancashire

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Re: Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 June 15 14:31 BST (UK) »
do you have that 1870 marriage cert?


Also in Waenllys Cottages in 1871 although on a different census page is an Evan Watkin aged 55 b. Llanfihangel a widower with son David 14 born Llanfyllin.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 June 15 15:18 BST (UK) »
This looks like the marriage for the son John Thomas Watkins age 23 Labourer father Thomas Watkins deceased carter ..Married Elizabeth Ann Cooke age 21 both living 9,Clapton Street .married 30/6/1894 St Michaels Hulme Manchester witness William Dumville and Mary Elizabeth Watkins

Wonder if this is Mary Watkins now Hopwood ?in the 1901 census address 39.Alma Street Manchester
Mary Hopwood b 1848 Llanfyllin Wales married age 53 charwoman
Evan Watkins b Birkenhead age 20 occupation carter
Thomas E Watkins b Birkenhead age 18 there is a birth for a Thomas Ellis Watkins 1882 Birkenhead

Baptism for Margaret Jane Watkins St Peters Liverpool 17/2/1873
born Birkenhead Cheshire father Thomas Watkins mother Mary
Death for Margaret Jane Watkins 1885 age 12 Birkenhead ?

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Re: Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 June 15 15:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie17 yes that's him, apparently Elizabeth Ann Cooke was his first wife she died aged 25 he then married Mary Elizabeth Grisenthwaite my great grandma  they had three children Sidney, Pheobe and Mona (my grandma)  :) Thank you so much
Hughen/an Sorbie Wigtown
Carmichael Scotland/Liverpool/Manchester
Watkin/s Manchester, Llanfyllin
Wilson/Leicester/Kent
Squire/Clerkenwell
Knight/Manchester/Horton Yorkshire
Hetherington/Lancashire