Look up please Watkin/s Llanfyllin

[rosie17]

Not finding them in the 1891 census to see who is with the family will have a look later maybe Osprey might have better luck 

[rosie17]

Mary Watkins married Anthony Hopwood 10/11/1887 St Mary's Parish Church Birkenhead information from online tree ..Also death registration 1910 Prestwich Lancashire Anthony Hopwood as you most probably know is with John Thomas Watkins in later census ..Possible death for Thomas Watkins 1883 Birkenhead age 32 estimated birth 1851

[osprey]

sorry, haven't spotted them as yet in 1891. If you want to go back before 1871, you'll need to get a copy of the 1870 marriage cert to be certain of Thomas's father.

Mary's family looks to be easier to trace. 1851 census they are good enough to have Jane's mother living with them, so helping back another generation.

1851 Tynykill, Llanwddyn HO107/2499 folio 696 pg 9
John Williams head mar 43 ag lab b. Merionethshire, Llanywrllyn  (Llanuwchllyn?)
Jane wife 34
Thomas son 8
Mary dau 5
Catharine dau 2
Jane dau 5
Catherine Jones wife's mother widow 67
all born Llanwddyn except John

[cuddlybunny28]

Many thanks for all your help

[cennydd]

Baptisms Llanwddyn
20 aug 1837 John
22 may 1842 William
28 May 1843 Thomas
28 Sept 1845 Mary
12 Jan 1851 Jane
25 March 1853 William
21 Sept 1856 Elizabeth

Possible Marriage Llanwddyn by banns 5 Nov 1836
John Williams otp  ba X
Jane Jones otp sp x
witnessed Ellis Ellis John Jonesx

[cuddlybunny28]

Thank you for you're reply I was looking at this and thought it sounded like the right family 😊👍

[Salsera]

Might your Thomas Watkin have had an elder brother Rees? This is what I found on the 1851 census.

1851
(51)  -----, Llwydiarth, Montgomery   HO 107/2499 – folio 241 – page 18      district 6a
David Watkin      head   75   Farmer of 5 acres   b. Llanfihangel, Montgom
Mary Watkin      wife   75                    b. Carus, Montgom.
Rees Watkin      g-son 8                    b. Llanfihangel

(52) Fyniwrth??, Llwydiarth      HO 107/2499 – folio 241 – page 19
Evan Watkin      head   34   Ag Lab      b. Llanfihangel, Montgom
Margaret Watkin           wife   30            b.Llanfihangel
Mary Watkin      dau   6            b. Llanfihangel
Elizabeth Watkin           dau   4            b. Llanfihangel
Thomas Watkin           son   1            b. Llanfyllin

Rees Watkin married Maria Morris in 1872 in Llanfyllin and they had Thomas, David, Margaret Elizabeth, John & Marie who were all born in Birkenhead. The names are very similar to those of Thomas Watkin's children in your family.

[cuddlybunny28]

Hi Salsera
Thanks so much for your help, it's much appreciated, I have managed to piece together the Watkins family quite well and now back to the 1700s so I am very pleased

Kindest regards

[Salsera]

Hello Cuddlybunny. I wonder if you can answer one or two of my queries regarding the Watkins of Llanfihangel yng Ngwynfa. My grandfather's cousin married Rees Watkin's eldest son Thomas (born 1972, Birkenhead) and his son Owen, whom I knew, made a few notes on his grandfather's siblings.
Other than birth years, he had no more information on Mary Watkin (1845) or on your ancestor Thomas (1849). Sister Elizabeth (1847) had married someone ..? and they had a daughter Margaret who married William Rees. I can't find this marriage so can't discover who Elizabeth married. Similarly, I don't know who the youngest sibling David (1851) married, only that they too had a daughter Margaret Watkin who married a Mr Jones - 2 children, and later a Mr Lucas - 4 children. Also in the notes was a Margaret Watkin who married Wayne Bingham. No idea of dates and haven't found the marriage yet.
Can you solve any of these mysteries please?