mid 1800 census addresses in Gamrie

[kittymama]

New here and hoping someone with more experience researching Scotland can help me.  I'm looking at indexed census records for my ancestors in Gamrie in 1851 and 1861 and I'm a little puzzled by what the "address" field actually means.  For example, they have listed "Logie" and "Hill of Troup".  I would like to find out where these places are located, but it's obviously a little different than a street and house number.  Any insight would be appreciated.

[Maggsie]

Hi,
I typed in Hill of troup and got.....................
It's a hill near to Gamrie.
try it and see
Maggsie

[GR2]

You will find several houses in these areas. If you go to the National Library of Scotland's map website (free), click on "Series maps", then scroll down until you find the mid-nineteenth century Ordnance Survey six inches to a mile maps. Click on that and you will get access to a good map of Gamrie.

What families are you researching?

[Forfarian]

Hill of Troup was a collection of crofts and smallholdings that have now disappeared. Some of the land they were on now partly forms the farm called Hillhead of Troup and adjacent farms.
See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ8162 and adjacent map squares and also
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.6590&lon=-2.3083&layers=5

Logie is a short distance south-west
See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ7960 and adjacent map squares and also
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.6405&lon=-2.3222&layers=5

What are the names of the folk you are researching?

[hmorrison]

@Forfarian Many thanks for those fantastic map links.  I too had the same question as @kittymama as I am following up family connections to same area.  I live in Ireland and am only just getting to grasps with researching Scottish ancestry and your hints were most helpful.  My 3x great grandmother, Elizabeth Anderson (daughter of William Anderson and Isabella Shiach) was living with her parents in Logie on 1841 census - her father William was a Crofter.  She was at same address in 1851 and in 1861 was living with her daughter and son in law (Sophia and James Killoch) at Backhill of Logie.  1871 she lived in Dubford and by the time of her death on 26/11/1878, her address was given as Hill of Troup - her sister Isobel Burnett of Backhill of Overbrae King Edward was present when she died. 

[Forfarian]

You're welcome. Glad the information is useful.

[KitCarson]

Forfarian - your photos and info are always most welcome.  You do like to get about and I for one, really appreciate you being there and recording the locations we can't always access ourselves.  I'm lucky that I'm in Scotland, but others benefit far more than I.

Thanks so much.

Kit

[Liviani]

@Forfarian Many thanks for those fantastic map links.  I too had the same question as @kittymama as I am following up family connections to same area.  I live in Ireland and am only just getting to grasps with researching Scottish ancestry and your hints were most helpful.  My 3x great grandmother, Elizabeth Anderson (daughter of William Anderson and Isabella Shiach) was living with her parents in Logie on 1841 census - her father William was a Crofter.  She was at same address in 1851 and in 1861 was living with her daughter and son in law (Sophia and James Killoch) at Backhill of Logie.  1871 she lived in Dubford and by the time of her death on 26/11/1878, her address was given as Hill of Troup - her sister Isobel Burnett of Backhill of Overbrae King Edward was present when she died.

Hi, I'm just wondering if we may have a connection. I have 2 sets of Andersons (Francis Anderson and his wife Isabella/Isobel/Elizabeth Anderson) on my paternal side. The various members of these Andersons lived and worked in Glens of Troup and Hill of Troup areas of Gamrie. Farms/crofts named Haddoleys, Snubs and Doups feature frequently.

I have a 3x great-uncle called William Anderson (brother to Francis, named above) who died at Hill of Troup in 1865, but he was married to a Christina Hen(d)ry.

I do have a Sophia Robertson Anderson who was born illegitimate in 1877, Aberdeen to Elizabeth Anderson (an illegtimate daughter herself to Isabella named above, prior to her marrying Francis). Elizabeth was born in Gamrie.

I just noticed some similar names pop up. It could be a coincidence given how common the surname was in that area, just throwing this out there in case.

Here's a previous thread of mine regarding Isabella/Isobel/Elizabeth Anderson - wife of Francis and mother to quite a few illegimate children in case it's of any relevance
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=795817.0

[Forfarian]

Haddoleys, Snub and Doups https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.7&lat=57.64683&lon=-2.28527&layers=5&b=1 - as far as I can see (and recall) no trace of them remains.

Haddoleys was here http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/nj8262
Doups was here http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/nj8361
Snub was here http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/nj8260