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Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« on: Monday 29 June 15 17:10 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I'm wondering if someone has access to the baptism records for Blunham Beds as I have a rellie query.

I've traced back to Tingey SABEY but get a bit confused as on a couple of different sites there are baptisms listed as both 1792 and 1795, also for both John Tingey SABEY and Tingey SABEY but both with father Tingey SABEY and mother Mary.

So, in essence, can anyone check the baptism records for 25 December 1792 or 1795 and let me know if it is John Tingey SABEY or no John, and any other info.

(for Tingey also read Tingay and SABY, SEABY, SABEY, etc)

Your hopefully,

Fionaohwhatalovelyname
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Re: Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 June 15 17:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Fiona

I'm sure someone will look for you, but just wondering if there were two sons? Perhaps the first child died and they named the other one after him?

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Re: Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 June 15 17:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Giggsy purr,

I did wonder that but both records (transcriptions only) have exactly the same details (including the film no) with only one digit of the year different.  And I admit I was hoping whoever (please) can look it up will let me know if that's the case!

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Re: Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 June 15 17:53 BST (UK) »
They are cooking their din-dins at the moment!

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Re: Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 June 15 17:54 BST (UK) »
This name's been discussed before, see....
   http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=668076.msg5131691#msg5131691

.... but when David comes back in out of the heat I'm sure he will give you some answers

Cheers John
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Re: Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 June 15 18:18 BST (UK) »
Hi John-P,

Sun worshipping aside, this is when it's get a bit interesting as I did find that post but don't yet have a Maria in my tree.  I've got a Mary, but my current Tingey John or not, married a Hannah GOODMAN and not an Elizabeth.  I still trying to get him fixed before I go onto the other SABEYs (I got badly distracted with James SABEY who (if the right one) was a pioneer of the Mormons).

Who said family research was dull!

Thanks,

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Re: Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 June 15 08:12 BST (UK) »
From Blunham with Moggerhanger PR transcript.... baptisms...

25 Dec 1792 John Tingey son of Tingey & Mary Saby

25 Dec 1795 Tingay son of Tingay & Mary Saby

There are 2 different entries so 2 children 
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Re: Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 June 15 10:20 BST (UK) »
Came in from the garden, but missed this thread last night. Brain was fried, so had to go into the Irish pub to cool down. Too hot! At 6.30 yesterday evening it was 36C (that's the temperature John, don't get overheated!) and it's getting hotter later in the week. And I'm out of cold beer.

I agree with John. Two separate sons, John Tingey, and Tingey.

John married Elizabeth Clark in Blunham on 30 Jun 1811 and appeared in censuses as John and doesn't seem to have used his middle name, and Tingey married Hannah Goodman in Renhold on 4 Oct 1814.

It was Tingey's son James who joined the Mormons and emigrated to Utah, arriving in the US on 22 May 1861

 I assume that James' sister, Rhoda Sabey, was your ancestor

And if you can find the marriage of John Sabey to Jane probably Tingey c 1738 I'd be very grateful!

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
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            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: Tingey SABEY or is it John?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 June 15 20:08 BST (UK) »
Hi John-P and David,

Oh my, many thanks for that info.  I didnít really think there would be two but Iím often surprised in the game called family.

I am indeed related through Rhoda SABEY and got onto this quest with my GGGrandfather who was called James Sabey SMITH, born 1860 in Biggleswade.  He keeps getting confused with another James Sabey SMITH born 1870 in Huntingdon (so 10 years and 20 miles apart).  It is quite an unusual name, especially in the world of SMITHs so I was sure there was a connection.  Finally with a bit of time to spare Iíve managed to track them both back to Tingey SABEY!  Iím quite chuffed though suspect Iím not the first.  And now I have both James Sabey SMITHs in my tree!!!  And a whole posse of SABEYS.

So then my next question is whether weíre Great Cousins too?   What is your connection to the Sabeys?  And Iíll keep hunting for that marriage but suspect youíve been at it for a while, so donít hold your breath.  Do you know if James SABEY was religious before he left the UK?  And was he/ his father & family already Seven Day Adventist?  And if yes, are they part of the non-conformist group of records?   So many questions.

I donít normally get chance to family tree during the week but got so excited by the name of Tingey I couldnít wait until the weekend....

And the next task will be trying to tie the two SMITH families Ė now that wonít be easy.

Fionaoooooooooh
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