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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 18:58 BST (UK) »
I make it.....James Johnston of Tremont (son of Rev. James Johnston) married his cousin, Elizabeth Wilson, daughter of Francis Wilson of Tully, Co. Longford, and had three children, James (his heir) who married Anne Pyne, and had issue, viz. James, Arthur, John, Joseph and two daughters.

Yet, you know the latter part of the written statement is incorrect as Arthur Johnston married Ann Pyne....

How do you know??  You don't say!
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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 18:59 BST (UK) »
There are 3 James in the above....
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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 19:10 BST (UK) »
I have birth Certs and married certs for my family to this point.

I was reading one way that James married Elizabeth Wilson daughter of...

I was then reading that James married Elizabeth Wilson his cousin...

Were there two Elizabeth Wilson's separate periods?

One reason why I'm attempting to contact other families who have these people in their trees.

Again thank you.

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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 19:14 BST (UK) »
...was reading one way that James married Elizabeth Wilson daughter of...

I was then reading that James married Elizabeth Wilson his cousin...

Were there two Elizabeth Wilson's separate periods? 




No,  Elizabeth Wilson was his cousin, the daughter of Francis Wilson of Tully, Co. Longford
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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 19:20 BST (UK) »
REMEMBER

...Colonel Johnston (of Kilmore, co. Armagh), a descendant, for the following particulars of the family...

MAY have got mixed up with the numbers of James?? (Generations)

"The elder son of James Johnston of Tremont (above mentioned) was James Johnston of Tremont and Carrickbreda, who married Anne Pyne, and had issue, viz. James, Arthur, John, Joseph and two daughters..."

It is POSSIBLE that


"The elder son of James Johnston of Tremont (above mentioned) was James Johnston of Tremont and Carrickbreda, who married ????, and had issue, viz. James, Arthur, John, Joseph and two daughters..."

and Arthur, son of that James, married Anne Pyne.


????
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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 20:01 BST (UK) »
Now you see where  I was coming from lol.

The Johnston name in Northern Ireland is a popular one. Records kept about this time were poor or have been lost, it was only such that these people were prominent figures that details were recorded of these people.

I'm trying to estimate ages etc of the Johnston' mentioned above and search other genealogy search engines, however feel that by advertising here I may catch someone's eye who has that information already.

Thanks again for your help.

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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 20:18 BST (UK) »
I know... but these were narrated by a relative who may have got them mixed up...

IF.. you take my suggestion as being correct then how do the years fall in to time line?


"The elder son of James Johnston of Tremont (above mentioned) was James Johnston of Tremont and Carrickbreda, who married ????, and had issue, viz. James, Arthur, John, Joseph and two daughters..." and that this Arthur married Anne Pyne.

You have marriage Cert and year!

Colonel Johnston (of Kilmore, co. Armagh), a descendant could have been in error!!

From the First James, born in late 1600's to Arthur marrying Anne, gets you how many generations??

You KNOW it was Arthur... Certainly possible that he was the son of the last James and not "as remembered" by Colonel Johnston!! If he got it wrong, so long ago, who would know now??

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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 20:29 BST (UK) »
I have two written / drawn family trees that go back to 1500's.
The problem is that that they are from two sides of the Johnston's. Where there is continuity I like you believe they are correct, I'm after some dates as the two trees differ.

It may well be that I will never know these only the order that they were alleged to have been born.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Johnston Families of Newry & Donaghmore.
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 20:32 BST (UK) »
Well I'd then look for gravestones... not always correct either but may straighten some of the lines.
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