Hoping someone can have a look at this for me, and let me know what you think…
Having found William’s 2nd marriage in 1920 (living at 13 William Street
, Cilfynydd), father’s name not given, I didn’t really expect to get back any further but the 1918 electoral register gave his first wife’s name as Ellen. And there they were in 1911 (though not picked up on Ancestry).
I’ve found Ellen in 1891 and 1901 and am not looking for anything further on her.
This is ‘our’ William in 1911:
1911 RG14 32216 195
13 William Street, Cilfynydd, Pontypridd
William Williams, head, 25, 1886, married, coal miner/hewer, Pwllheli
Ellen Williams, wife, 27, married, Newboro, Anglesey
William Roberts, lodger
So looking back through the censuses I found:
1901 RG13 5265 35 19
Quay, Denio, Pwllheli
Margaret Griffith, Head, Single, Female, 60, 1841, Wash Woman, Bryncroes
Mary Ann Griffith, Daughter, Single, Female, 34, 1867, Char Woman, Pwllheli
William Williams, Son, Single, Male, 14, 1887, Butcher, Pwllheli
Laura Griffith, Daughter, -, Female, 6, 1895, -, Pwllheli
Robert Griffith, Son, -, Male, 4, 1897, -, Pwllheli
[Presumably William, Laura and Robert are Mary Ann’s children (or Margaret’s grandchildren)]
1891 RG12 4651 81 11
Mitre Place, Denio, Pwllheli
Margaret Griffith, Head, Single, Female, 51, 1840, Charwoman, Bryncroes
Mary Ann Griffith, Daughter, Single, Female, 25, 1866, - , Pwllheli
William Williams, Grandson, -, Male, 4, 1887, -, Pwllheli
Evan Griffith, Grandson, -, Male, 2, 1889, -, Pwllheli [can’t find Evan again]
1881 RG11 5557 50 23
Ysgiffton, Denio, Pwllheli
Margaret Griffith, Head, Single, Female, 37, 1844, General Servant, Bryncroes
Robert G or H Williams, Son, Single, Male, 12, 1869, Scholar, Pwllheli
[I can’t find Mary Ann in 1881]
1871 RG10 5705 30 9
Ala Rd workhouse, Denio, Pwllheli
Margaret Griffith, Inmate, Unm, Female, 28, 1843, Charwoman, Bryncroes
Mary Ann Griffith, Inmate, Unm, Female, 6, 1865, scholar, Pwllheli
Robert Griffith, Inmate, Unm, Male, 2, 1869, infant, Pwllheli
Ages vary a little and William's surname is Williams or Griffith but otherwise it all seemed to fit with no known father. But then I looked for Margaret and Mary Ann in 1911 and this has thrown me – clearly the same Margaret, Mary Ann, Laura and Robert as in the 1901 but who is the other William as mine is married and in Cilfynydd? And the info on the children, and Margaret a widow. Or have I got the wrong 1901 for my William?
1911 RG14 629 4
3 Glanafon Square, Sand St, Denio, Pwllheli
Margaret Griffith, Wife, Widow, Female, -, 71, 1840, Bryncroes [says married 20 years, 2 children, 1 has died, but this has been crossed out]
Mary Ann Griffith, Daughter, Single, Female, - 42, 1869, Pwllheli [says 3 children, all still alive, but crossed out]
William Griffith, Son, Single, Male, Sett Maker, 22, 1889, PwllheliLaura Griffith, Daughter, Single, Female, -, 16, 1895, Pwllheli
Robert Griffith, Son, Single, Male, Shop Apprentice, 14, 1897, Pwllheli
Any help much appreciated, with thanks.
Deirdre